I intended to shoot at the Defensive Handgun class at ARPC today. Went out early with a buddy so he could shoot his new 1911. I'd bought a box of Win. 100 ct bulk FMJ ammo at Walmart. The 709 would FTE with each magazine, sometimes several times. Thought I was holding it too loosely, no change. Limp-wristed it, no different. Shot up the box with continuing FTEs then put two mags of Rem/UMC megapack FMJ through it with no problems. Hmmm, a very picky Brazilian! No more Winchester for it!