Taming Heavy Recoiling Firearms?

[arakboss]

It seems to be a common belief that a heavier firearm will have less felt recoil than a lighter firearm, firing the same cartridges.

So let's say a 5lb rifle has 20lbs of recoil.

If you add 5lbs of weight to that rifle, how much less felt recoil do you think it will have?

Has anybody used a lead sled type device that locks on to shooting bench so it won't move at all?

I already own one of these shooting rest and was thinking I could modify it to make a solid shooting platform that wouldn't allow for recoil movement of rifle.





I am interested in other less conventional methods that people have used to lessen felt recoil in heavy recoiling rifles. I want to be comfortable shooting a 100 rounds in a bench session with all my rifles including the 300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag.

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[Tlock]

Can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen!

I have heard that lead sleds and other types of solid shooting platforms can damage your optic. I dont know that to be true personally as ive never used such device.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Stock design will play a role here.
If the stock does not fit you well....no matter the caliber , recoil may be uncomfortable.

Also...Regarding stock design....
A stock designed for a hunting rifle...will be shaped differently than one made for bench rest shooting.
Do your rifles mentioned in the OP .....have a bench rest style of stock...?
Andy

 

[Steel Head]

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5 pounds makes a good bit of difference.

My 338 is heavy and has a great break for a good reason.
If my 338 was 9 pounds it would have 60 ft lbs of recoil.

https://rumble.com/v6wh43q-ping-at-1050-yards.html

 

[arakboss]

Stock design will play a role here.
If the stock does not fit you well....no matter the caliber , recoil may be uncomfortable.

Also...Regarding stock design....
A stock designed for a hunting rifle...will be shaped differently than one made for bench rest shooting.
Do your rifles mentioned in the OP .....have a bench rest style of stock...?
Andy

I don't have more than $200 each in most of them. Almost all came with cheap factory tupperware stocks.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I don't have more than $200 each in most of them. Almost all came with cheap factory tupperware stocks.

Well....that could be part of the problem here.
I would suggest getting a stock that fits you...and is designed for bench rest shooting.
Andy

 

[Steel Head]

Well....that could be part of the problem here.
I would suggest getting a stock that fits you...and is designed for bench rest shooting.
Andy

A good stock or chassis is a game changer.

 

[Knobgoblin]

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Has anybody used a lead sled type device that locks on to shooting bench so it won't move at all?

Yes, and soon after they do that they start posting on forum looking for recommendations on getting their broken stock replaced. In addtion to the better stock design and a chassi a suppressor would help not only help a bit with the recoil but it would also reduce the blast and concussion which can make longer sessions more enjoyable

 

[arakboss]

Seems like the consensus so far, is that it's a stock problem, not a heavy recoil problem?

Any suggestions on budget (sub $100) stocks that will remedy the issues, I have to keep in mind that they're mostly $200 rifles and I have a good number of them to outfit.

What about modifying the tupperware stocks?

What about adding some weights to the rifle?

Any budget break ideas for non threaded sporter profile barrels?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Which rifles? There might be some options for stocks

 

[Tlock]

Seems like the consensus so far, is that it's a stock problem, not a heavy recoil problem?

Stocks play a part. But also remember "heavy recoil" to you may not be heavy recoil to someone else. Your gonna have to play with what is comfortable for you and what your body can tolerate. I personally dont go out to punch paper and put 100 rounds threw my elk guns. I dont see a need for it for me. To be honest I hate shooting paper.

 

[Tlock]

Seems like the consensus so far, is that it's a stock problem, not a heavy recoil problem?

Any suggestions on budget (sub $100) stocks that will remedy the issues, I have to keep in mind that they're mostly $200 rifles and I have a good number of them to outfit.

What about modifying the tupperware stocks?

What about adding some weights to the rifle?

Any budget break ideas for non threaded sporter profile barrels?

Also, I personally am about quality not quantity. Thats rifles, pistols and optics.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

What about modifying the tupperware stocks?

You could fill the stock with a bunch of lead fishing weights and than use a good 2 part epoxy to seal it in good and tight. That way when you chuck that plastic garbage into the river were it belongs you can drive away and not have to look back to see if the trash floated back to the top

 

[Bobbygun]

I bought a lead sled. Used it once, then sold it. I didn't like it at all. Felt like it got in the way.

 

[arakboss]

Which rifles? There might be some options for stocks

I have a bunch. Rem 700s, Savage axis 1 and 2s, Savage 110, 111, Model 12, Mossberg ATR 100, T/C Compass 1 & 2. I think I have one Ruger American as well.

I will suffer through the mil surps.

 

[Tlock]

I have a bunch. Rem 700s, Savage axis 1 and 2s, Savage 110, 111, Model 12, Mossberg ATR 100, T/C Compass 1 & 2. I think I have one Ruger American as well.

I will suffer through the mil surps.

Suffering doesn't sound fun to me.....unless your into pain and being very uncomfortable! If so boy howdy its your lucky day.....my ex wife is still single!!!

 

[arakboss]

According to this article adding a pound of weight reduces felt recoil by a pound.

"Do not forget that rifle weight is a crucial factor in the recoil equation, inversely proportional to recoil. Increase the gun weight by, say, 25% and the recoil goes down by 25%."

Source: https://chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

 

[thorborg]

Lowrider stocks have long been considered upscale for bench rest even prone shooting similar to this:
When using a rest, the best recoil suppression comes from the weight of the rifle, not the rest.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Any suggestions on budget (sub $100) stocks that will remedy the issues, I have to keep in mind that they're mostly $200 rifles and I have a good number of them to outfit.

Yes....
Selling off some or all of the rifles to get a quality bench rest rifle that fits you and how you shoot.
Rather than trying to make / modify a rifle that was not built or designed for a specific task....
Do a specific task.

Bench rest rifles do one thing really well...
Shoot from a bench.
The rifles you mentioned in post #16....make for fine hunting rifles....but a fine hunting rifle...ain't the same as a bench rest rifle.
Andy