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Syrian Rebels and Background Checks

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Biped, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Biped

    Biped Beaverton Member

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  2. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Burt, I'm sure you picked up on the real message... If UBC's are suppossedly good enough for U.S. citizens, then they are good enough for foreign savages wearing dirty nightshirts that cut out and eat livers and hearts, then post it on youtube... yes? ;)
     
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  4. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Not a damn thing will happen even if enough sigs are recieved, Owebamma will just smirk at the camera while thinking "those losers will never quit bubblegumin will they"...
    How in the Hell is he payin for this rebel aid? I bet that's why he had the China boy here to beg for mo monay!!!
     
  5. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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  6. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    Well it'll become more difficult to supply Obama's terrorists with arms. Go Turkey!

    US troop buildup in Jordan after Turkey shuts US-NATO arms corridor to Syrian rebels

    DEBKAfile Special Report June 22, 2013, 5:44 AM (IDT)



    erdogan-Syria.jpg Tayyip Erdogan's U-turn on Syria


    The US decision to upgrade Syrian rebel weaponry has run into a major setback: debkafile reveals that Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan phoned President Barack Obama in Berlin Wednesday, June 19, to report his sudden decision to shut down the Turkish corridor for the transfer of US and NATO arms to the Syrian rebels.
    Against this background, the US President informed Congress Friday, June 22, that 700 combat-equipped American military personnel would remain in Jordan at the end of a joint US-Jordanian training exercise. They would include crews of two Patriot anti-aircraft missile batteries and the logistics, command and communications personnel needed to support those units. The United States is also leaving behind from the war maneuver a squadron of 12 to 24 F-16 fighter jets at Jordan’s request. Some 300 US troops have been in Jordan since last year.
    Erdogan’s decision will leave the Syrian rebels fighting in Aleppo virtually high and dry. The fall of Qusayr cut off their supplies of arms from Lebanon. Deliveries through Jordan reach only as far as southern Syria and are almost impossible to move to the north where the rebels and the Hizballah-backed Syrian army are locked in a decisive battle for Aleppo.
    The Turkish prime minister told Obama he is afraid of Russian retribution if he continues to let US and NATO weapons through to the Syrian rebels.
    Since the G8 Summit in Northern Ireland last week, Moscow has issued almost daily condemnations of the West for arming “terrorists.”
    Rebel spokesmen in Aleppo claimed Friday that they now had weapons which they believe “will change the course of the battle on the ground.”
    debkafile’s military sources are strongly skeptical of their ability - even after the new deliveries - to stand up to the onslaught on their positions in the embattled town by the combined strength of the Syrian army, Hizballah troops and armed Iraqi Shiites. The prevailing intelligence assessment is that they will be crushed in Aleppo as they were in Al Qusayr.
    That battle was lost after 16 days of ferocious combat; Aleppo is expected to fall after 40-60 days of great bloodshed.
    The arms the rebels received from US, NATO and European sources were purchased on international markets – not only because they were relatively cheap but because they were mostly of Russian manufacture. The rebels are thus equipped with Russian weapons for fighting the Russian arms used by the Syria army. This made Moscow angrier than ever.
    Until now, the Erdogan government was fully supportive of the Syrian opposition, permitting them to establish vital command centers and rear bases on Turkish soil and send supplies across the border to fighting units. He has now pulled the rug out from under their cause and given Assad a major leg-up
    This about-turn is a strategic earthquake – not just in terms of the Syrian war but also for the United States and, as time goes by, for Israel too.
    Ten years ago, Erdogan pulled the same maneuver when he denied US troops passage through Turkey to Iraq for opening a second front against Saddam Hussein.
    President Obama reacted by topping up the US deployment in Jordan by 700 combat-equipped troops to 1,000. Patriot missile interceptors and F-16 fighter jets are left behind from their joint war game for as long as the security situation requires. debkafile: The joint US-Jordanian maneuver was in fact abruptly curtailed after two weeks although it was planned to continue for two months until the end of August.
    The widening disruptions of the surging Syrian war are on the point of tipping over into Jordan and coming closer than ever to Israel.
     
  7. timac

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    Syria was one of the countries in the ME where Christians, Jews and Muslims lived together peacefully, under Assad's government. Well we now know what Obama's terrorists really want, the same as their handler.

    WND EXCLUSIVE

    Syrian rebels to Christians: Flee or die!

    Report documents strategy by Muslims to impose religious law on nation
    Published: 06/05/2013 at 8:20 PM
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    A new report from a ministry worker who visited a remnant of Syria’s Christian community confirms the worst: Rebels battling President Bashar al-Assad for control are imposing Islamic law, giving Christians the choice to flee or die.
    The report is from the Religious Freedom Coalition, the faith-based organization run by William J. Murray, author of “My Life Without God.”


    Murray explained that the report on persecution of Christians in Syria by jihadists was by Martin Janssen, who visited Amman, Jordan, for a prayer walk held for two Syrian church leaders kidnapped by Syrian rebels, Greek Orthodox Archbishop Paul Yazigi and Syriac Orthodox Archbishop Yohanna Ibrahim.
    The report, in Dutch, was translated by Mark Durie, an Anglican vicar in Melbourne, Australia, and an associate fellow at the Middle Eastern Forum.
    After the prayer walk, Syrian Christian refugees told Janssen they had been attacked by the rebels fighting in Syria, where Christians had been allowed to worship and live under Assad’s regime.
    The report comes after Republican Sen. John McCain’s recent trip to Syria, where he was photographed with two men who, according to Beirut news reports, were involved in kidnapping people from Lebanon just months ago.
    Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., criticized McCain, noting that the “pro-Western people” he visited weren’t well vetted.
    Durie said the mandate to Christians by the rebels, some of whom have been linked to al-Qaida, is based on the Quran.
    “The Christian residents were offered four choices: 1. renounce the ‘idolatry’ of Christianity and convert to Islam; 2. pay a heavy tribute to the Muslims for the privilege of keeping their heads and their Christian faith (this tribute is known as jizya); 3. be killed; 4. flee for their lives, leaving all their belongings behind.”
    Durie said some Christians “were killed, some fled, some tried to pay the jizya and found it too heavy a burden to bear after the rebels kept increasing the amount they had to pay, and some were unable to flee or pay, so they converted to Islam to save themselves.”
    “The scenario reported by Syrian refugees is a re-enactment of the historic fate of Christians across the Middle East,” he said. “The Muslim historian Al-Tabari reported that when the Caliph Umar conquered Syria, he gave the following command to his armies: ‘Summon the [conquered] people to Allah; those who respond unto your call, accept it [their conversion to Islam] from them, but those who refuse must pay the jizya out of humiliation and lowliness. If they refuse this, it is the sword without leniency.’”
    Durie explained Umar was referencing the Quran, which states: “Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the jizya readily, being brought low.”
    Durie said the policy of subjugating Christians under the yoke of jizya taxation was also based on the teaching of Muhammad who said:
    Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah.
    Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war …
    When you meet your enemies who are polytheists,
    invite them to three courses of action.
    If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold
    yourself from doing them any harm.
    Invite them to (accept) Islam;
    if they respond to you, accept it from them
    and desist from fighting against them ….
    If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya.
    If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.
    If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”
    (Sahih Muslim. The Book of Jihad and Expedition. [Kitab al-Jihad wa’l-Siyar])
    Janssen’s reported the accounts he was given by Syrian Christians:
    Jamil [an elderly man] lived in a village near Idlib where 30 Christian families had always lived peacefully alongside some 200 Sunni families. That changed dramatically in the summer of 2012. One Friday trucks appeared in the village with heavily armed and bearded strangers who did not know anyone in the village. They began to drive through the village with a loud speaker broadcasting the message that their village was now part of an Islamic emirate and Muslim women were henceforth to dress in accordance with the provisions of the Islamic Shariah. Christians were given four choices. They could convert to Islam and renounce their ‘idolatry.’ If they refused they were allowed to remain on condition that they pay the jizya. This is a special tax that non-Muslims under Islamic law must pay for ‘protection.’ For Christians who refused there remained two choices: they could leave behind all their property or they would be slain. The word that was used for the latter in Arabic (dhabaha) refers to the ritual slaughter of sacrificial animals.
    Janssen said he asked the Syrian Christian how the 30 Christian families in his village had fared.
    “He replied that a number of families – including his own family – had initially opted to pay jizya. When the leader of the armed militia in their village, however, noticed that they were able to do this, the amount kept increasing in the following months.”
    As with almost every Christian family in the village, he eventually fled.
    “His land and farm were lost. Some Christian families in his village who were unable to escape or pay the jizya converted to Islam,” Janssen said. “To his knowledge, there were no Christians killed in his village, but he had heard other stories from a neighboring village where only three Christian families survived. They were all murdered in the middle of the night.”
    Janssen also reported the account of Miryam, an Armenian middle-aged woman from Aleppo, Syria.
    “Miryam looked at me thoughtfully and said something which remained constantly with me over the following days,” he said. “She told me that she had learned last year that a human being has a tremendous ability to adapt to the most difficult conditions. They had to learn to live in Aleppo without water or food, and sometimes no electricity for days on end. They even had to learn to live with the sounds of explosives and gunfire that tore them from sleep at night.”
    Nevertheless, Janssen continued, “what a man cannot live with is the constant terror that paralyzes him completely: the daily fear that the bus transporting children to their school would be targeted by a suicide attack; the psychological fear that comes over you on Sunday when you go to church knowing there are groups active in your neighborhood who consider it a religious duty to kill as many Christians as possible; and finally the situation that at night you do not dare to go to bed because you have received reports about acquaintances and relatives who were surprised by a rocket that crashed out of nowhere onto their property while they slept; or what can happen when you spend hours in a long line at one of the few bakeries that still make bread.”
    “Indeed Miryam told me that she never could have imagined that even the simplest of life’s activities had suddenly become dangerous.”
     
  8. Brutus57

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    This gives you the direction all this is going to go. After thousands of years it will still boil down to a city named Jerusalem. If they were a peaceful bunch then you could talk to them. But the dangerous minority have only one goal. A sword at your neck if you don't side with them.

    Brutus out
    Molon labe
     
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    I guess this has already been posted. Sorry

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