Scope objective bell to barrel space

[po18guy]

If that scope was moved forward just a tiny amount the clearance would grow. I'd be more inclined to move the scope further forward rather than up.

I would close my eyes, shoulder the rifle, get a good natural cheekweld, then see where the scope should go from there.

 

[Rifleman777]

I Vote GO with it!

 

[Rifleman777]

A little bit shaky today at 100 yds, looks like the 3 dollar bill space (barrel to scope) works.
Guess I'll take it and go with it.

 

[JustShoot]

Just throwing this out there with a different mindset, and looking at Higher over Bore Not necessarily being a bad thing. I been swaying away from Low Mount last few years. Higher line of Sight over Bore. ( for me ) playing my down-range Elev. Holdovers with line of sight over bore being higher, and working my #'s with the bullets flight path downrange, as it passes threw the line of sight twice.
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[gmerkt]

I went thru this with the last two scopes I installed, I purchased two sets of rings knowing I would be returning one of them. Its not easy selecting just the right ring height, seems like there just isnt a way to truly know without trying the rings on, so to speak.

This sounds like my approach. The math is too much for me. I keep extra Winchester and Ruger ring sets around for this reason. Adding in the factor that I often take scopes as they come to me, not after I go looking for one.

I've seen more than one rifle equipped with original open sights, and subsequently having been fitted with a scope. With the objective bell resting on the rear sight. And apparently having been this way for some time. Without apparent ill effect.

More the further from the reciever. That low, probably none to very little.

That was my thought. That close to the receiver, I wouldn't expect much barrel whip.

It's for hunting. I ordered a "push-on"cap instead of flip-up cap hoping to squeak past that problem. I guess if it doesn't fit…

You might consider a push on cap with a small section cut out at the bottom where the barrel interference is occurring. It may or may not be completely water tight, depending on the type of material. But since the barrel is angled away from the bell, you don't have to cut the edge of the cap all the way back; the sealing surface at the front of the bell would still be intact.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Just throwing this out there with a different mindset, and looking at Higher over Bore Not necessarily being a bad thing. I been swaying away from Low Mount last few years. Higher line of Sight over Bore. ( for me ) playing my down-range Elev. Holdovers with line of sight over bore being higher, and working my #'s with the bullets flight path downrange, as it passes threw the line of sight twice.
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Although there are some potential benefits to a high scope mount, not everyone is built like Hanover Fiste

 

[Koda]

I've seen more than one rifle equipped with original open sights, and subsequently having been fitted with a scope. With the objective bell resting on the rear sight. And apparently having been this way for some time. Without apparent ill effect.

Probably because if its touching its at least consistent. Similar to forend bumps they used to put in wood stocks to minimize barrel whip. Someone will find a load that works with it and from then on is convinced that scope interference isn't an issue.

It looks like the clearance is enough on the OPs rifle, glad its worked out.

 

[JustShoot]

Although there are some potential benefits to a high scope mount, not everyone is built like Hanover Fiste

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[Bobbygun]

A little bit shaky today at 100 yds, looks like the 3 dollar bill space (barrel to scope) works.
Guess I'll take it and go with it.

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I am not a competitive benchrest shooter. But if my hunting rifle shot groups like that with a decent hunting bullet, I'd be done experimenting and roll with it.

 

[parallax]

I think as close as you can get is better... imagine if a scope was mounted 6 inches above your barrel and you zero at 100 yards..your 100 yard zero will match your 2800 yard zero..

 

[Koda]

I am not a competitive benchrest shooter. But if my hunting rifle shot groups like that with a decent hunting bullet, I'd be done experimenting and roll with it.

Especially with factory ammo.

It might be close, but it looks like his scope isn't interfering with recoil whip. I still want mine high enough to clear -any- scope cover I might buy, especially on a hunting rifle. Years ago I had a scope mounted close like that and could never find a scope cover for it that cleared the barrel, had to modify one and it wasnt the greatest. So after that Ive always looked for a bit more clearance. Otherwise, yeah as low to the bore is better.
... except for Hanover Fiste... that guy....

 

[JustShoot]

I think as close as you can get is better... imagine if a scope was mounted 6 inches above your barrel and you zero at 100 yards..your 100 yard zero will match your 2800 yard zero..

2800 yard...LOL . That is slightly more than huge over exaggeration, and your 'height over bore' in relation to a Low or High mounting for scope is relative to the bullet crossing the 'Line of Sight' 2-Times in it flight trajectory at much more closer impact range using 100 yrd.zero.
( for example ) .. I do shoot/have a clip-on NV that is 6-inch above my barrels center of Bore. So my line of sight is high 6", with bullet Vel. at 2850 fps. 70 grn. .257 cal. , the bullet crossing threw 1st sight-line @ 100 yrd .'set zero' on it's upward trajectory, hits apex at around 150 yrd. Then 'roughly' at around the 220 yrd. bullet crosses line of sight again in it's downward trajectory . So after roughly 220 yrd. I will start using more precision in my Elev. holdovers.
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[Mono1]

A little bit shaky today at 100 yds, looks like the 3 dollar bill space (barrel to scope) works.
Guess I'll take it and go with it.

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Suh-weet Bro!

 

[Mono1]

Although there are some potential benefits to a high scope mount, not everyone is built like Hanover Fiste

That's why God invented Cheek Pads

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

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Scope gets high enough and you need to switch from cheek weld to chin weld, so . . .

 

[Rifleman777]

Scope gets high enough and you need to switch from cheek weld to chin weld, so . . .

Been there Done that

 

[parallax]

2800 yard...LOL . That is slightly more than huge over exaggeration, and your 'height over bore' in relation to a Low or High mounting for scope is relative to the bullet crossing the 'Line of Sight' 2-Times in it flight trajectory at much more closer impact range using 100 yrd.zero.
( for example ) .. I do shoot/have a clip-on NV that is 6-inch above my barrels center of Bore. So my line of sight is high 6", with bullet Vel. at 2850 fps. 70 grn. .257 cal. , the bullet crossing threw 1st sight-line @ 100 yrd .'set zero' on it's upward trajectory, hits apex at around 150 yrd. Then 'roughly' at around the 220 yrd. bullet crosses line of sight again in it's downward trajectory . So after roughly 220 yrd. I will start using more precision in my Elev. holdovers.
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Opps, added an extra zero in my calculations.. shoulda read 280 yards. LOL. good thing i don't work for nasa..

 

[edzz]

I think as close as you can get is better... imagine if a scope was mounted 6 inches above your barrel and you zero at 100 yards..your 100 yard zero will match your 2800 yard zero..

Now imagine if rifle is canted 6 degrees off plumb, how far is that bullet going off center at range? Closser to bore less guess work.

BTW, great group, shaky day my

 

[JustShoot]

Opps, added an extra zero in my calculations.. shoulda read 280 yards. LOL. good thing i don't work for nasa..

No problemo on extra digit added .. and the 6 inch sight over barrels Bore with that particular NV mounted on that Rig is high. I just using it as good example with 6" high being about as High as it gets for sight line over Bore.
Actually the NV height is an advantage because it a night rig, and most everything shot is inside the 200 yard range. Playing the bullets flight path #'s crossing line of sight twice in Ranging with scope height. It still pretty similar to guys shooting or hunting, and with using a 50 yrd. zero, and guys putting a 200 yard zero .

I Got Rigs with High and Low mounting of glass. Making my Glass as low as possible is something I don't think as necessary anymore for the last 20 years. If I don't have a comfortable eye alignment with the ocular. Everything is all adjusted with cheek rise.
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[Ducati_Meister]

I prefer chin weld height. Just kidding.