RIP President Carter

[Certaindeaf]

His legacy will live forever

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[wired]

Not sure why anyone would want to denigrate Carter's intelligence or accomplishments. Carter was qualified as a nuclear engineering officer in the U.S. Navy. Even enlisted personnel in the Navy are called "engineers" regardless of whether or not they have degrees in engineering from a four-year school. Graduating from Navy Nuclear Power School is eminently more difficult than earning a four-year B.S. degree from a state university.

No, Carter was not qualified as a Nuclear Engineering Officer. He did not complete the training program and resigned from the Navy prior to receiving his credentials. He was a Lieutenant at the time of his resignation with two years of sea duty and had participated in the Navy nuclear engineering training program to a point but did not graduate.

Carter had resigned prior to the launch of the first US Nuclear Submarine.

 

[PiratePast40]

Not sure why anyone would want to denigrate Carter's intelligence or accomplishments. Carter was qualified as a nuclear engineering officer in the U.S. Navy. Even enlisted personnel in the Navy are called "engineers" regardless of whether or not they have degrees in engineering from a four-year school. Graduating from Navy Nuclear Power School is eminently more difficult than earning a four-year B.S. degree from a state university.

He was studying for but did not qualify as engineering officer aboard Seawoff, but resigned his commission after his father died. He was qualified in submarines but that was on a diesel boat. I won't disparage the man for that, just want to make sure we set the record straight.

Naval History and Heritage Command
From 1 March to 8 October 1953, Carter was preparing to become the engineering officer for USS Seawolf (SSN-575), one of the first submarines to operate on atomic power. However, when his father died in July 1953, Carter resigned from the Navy and returned to Georgia to manage his family interests. Carter was honorably discharged on 9 October 1953 and transferred to the retired reserve at his request with the rank of lieutenant.

The Brits sometimes refer to all mechanics as engineers but in the US Navy, only a degreed engineer is referred to as an engineer. Nucs are in the engineering divisions, i.e., RC-Div, M-Div, E-Div and RL-Div, but not referred to as engineers.

For the nucs - yes, I did add RL-Div!

 

[JRuby]

I served on the USS Seawolf SSN 575 from 12/9/1981 thru 5/26/1986 out of Mare Island. I do not recall anyone ever mentioning Carter had ever been an officer on board the boat. This is news to me. The boat was commissioned in 57 and decommed in 87.

 

[wired]

I served on the USS Seawolf SSN 575 from 12/9/1981 thru 5/26/1986 out of Mare Island. I do not recall anyone ever mentioning Carter had ever been an officer on board the boat. This is news to me. The boat was commissioned in 57 and decommed in 87.

That's because he was "preparing " to be on the seawolf , which isn't quite true anyway . Then he resigned.

Carters Naval career was embellished a bit

 

[jabayevx]

I'm a Democrat, and I own two guns, soon to be four (although 3 of those will be flintlocks). I don't want to make guns illegal, but I would like to see fewer gun deaths, especially school shootings, in our country. But I can certainly understand why you said that, because pretty much all the calls to make guns illegal come from Democrats. But Dems aren't all that way. Anyway, hello fellow American and gun owner

My dude your party affiliation makes no sense in that context. Not only that but the party itself is terrible on so many other positions. Oregon has suffered a lot under the nearly 40 years of sole Democrat control. If your goal of lowering "gun deaths" is truly something you want then Democrats would also have to allow an honest conversation about young black men and violence. Which they will never ever engage in because then they would have to entertain the idea that most of everyone isn't responsible and that bans only help criminals.

 

[jabayevx]

He caused Biden.

He caused a build up of the domestic surveillance state, Obamacare, assassinated Americans extrajudicially, and dumped racial relations into a hole worse than I've seen since the LA riots.

 

[MannyGlocks]

His 'saintliness' was a PR construct...

His Secret Service agents despised him and knew the real jc.

 

[Caveman Jim]

You got to vote while in high school? What, was 10th grade the best 5 years of your life or something? (just kidding)

The voting age was 18 years old back then. It should be raised to 21 with the mentality that is present nowadays.

 

[oremike]

It's pretty sad that there are those that can't honor a man in his passing.

 

[TTSX]

Are there a lot of Democrats on here or something? I mean I voted for Obama in 08 but that was the last time I ever made that mistake. For the life of me I cannot understand Democrat gun owners. I know some personally and their cognitive dissonance is pretty staggering.

Has it occurred to you as a possibility that they vote Democrat because they care more about other things than they do guns? They have a right to own guns regardless of party affiliation because of, you know, that second amendment thing.

 

[TTSX]

I think every American has a right to complain regardless of whether they vote. The efficacy of voting on a national level is highly debatable.

And I have the right to disregard their whining

 

[made in china]

Has it occurred to you as a possibility that they vote Democrat because they care more about other things than they do guns? They have a right to own guns regardless of party affiliation because of, you know, that second amendment thing.

Like this?

 

[TTSX]

Like this?
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Sure? Don't know, that's not my priority. I get that you're making a joke however my point still stands

 

[mrblond]

At least we got Delta Force out of the deal.

yeah and after that all the baddies were SOL.. i mean you got Chuck AND Lee Marvin after them.

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[made in china]

Are there a lot of Democrats on here or something? I mean I voted for Obama in 08 but that was the last time I ever made that mistake. For the life of me I cannot understand Democrat gun owners. I know some personally and their cognitive dissonance is pretty staggering.

I know a few older self-proclaimed Democrats.
One in particular, who's about a quarter century older than me, talks just like any conservative.
Complains about the same things I complain about. To ruffle his feathers I call him a "closet conservative".
He won't abide by the pro-noun policies at our job, same as me. Thinks the government wasted money, and we live in a deep blue state. Owns guns. Believes in meritocracy.
I was baffled when I first met him.
But, I've come to understand where he's coming from. At over 70 years of age, he grew up in a different era. When Democrats were different than today. He willfully ignores the new variant of Democrat. He is loyal to "his team" no matter how debaucherous they have become. He avoid talking about what the current Democrat party is about. He only relates to the Democrat party of the past. He's also very loyal about Unions, of which we are both members, but he agrees that the Union no longer has our best interests in mind. However, he's team blue until the end.

Very easy guy to get along with because we can complain about the same things all day long (some dude in a different department just got a boob job, we have fun with that).

My opinion is that both parties are going through huge changes, and it seems to me that some people no longer align with the goals of the new versions of party they have long affiliated with.

 

[Bobbygun]

I know a few older self-proclaimed Democrats.
One in particular, who's about a quarter century older than me, talks just like any conservative.
Complains about the same things I complain about. To ruffle his feathers I call him a "closet conservative".
He won't abide by the pro-noun policies at our job, same as me. Thinks the government wasted money, and we live in a deep blue state. Owns guns. Believes in meritocracy.
I was baffled when I first met him.
But, I've come to understand where he's coming from. At over 70 years of age, he grew up in a different era. When Democrats were different than today. He willfully ignores the new variant of Democrat. He is loyal to "his team" no matter how debaucherous they have become. He avoid talking about what the current Democrat party is about. He only relates to the Democrat party of the past. He's also very loyal about Unions, of which we are both members, but he agrees that the Union no longer has our best interests in mind. However, he's team blue until the end.

Very easy guy to get along with because we can complain about the same things all day long (some dude in a different department just got a boob job, we have fun with that).

My opinion is that both parties are going through huge changes, and it seems to me that some people no longer align with the goals of the new versions of party they have long affiliated with.

Absolutely. You just described my late grandfather. It was mainly the union thing. My parents were also Democrats, but switched parties in the late 60's or early 70's.

 

[made in china]

Sure? Don't know, that's not my priority. I get that you're making a joke however my point still stands

I'm not joking. That is in no way a joke.

That's a big reason that the election turned out the way it did. The D party is a huge mess, and I am sure you can agree that the D party failed in some way, they lost a lot of momentum and they had big industry, Hollywood and media on their side. That picture sums up the downfall. I'm glad they won't back down, keep going with the modern narrative and you can expect to see more failures.
Go back to the D party of 30 years ago and see them begin winning again

 

[TTSX]

I'm not joking. That is in no way a joke.

That's a big reason that the election turned out the way it did. The D party is a huge mess, and I am sure you can agree that the D party failed in some way, they lost a lot of momentum and they had big industry, Hollywood and media on their side. That picture sums up the downfall. I'm glad they won't back down, keep going with the modern narrative and you can expect to see more failures.
Go back to the D party of 30 years ago and see them begin winning again

@Bobbygun summed up my point with a perfect example of unions keeping some people on the blue team. And you seemed to agree with him. I don't give a damn what the blue team stands for today, they don't represent me and I don't vote for them. But some gun owners do. Because they have a higher priority, whatever that may be, than guns. I don't really give a damn what those priorities are, either, however I recognize they exist

 

[titsonritz]

I know a few older self-proclaimed Democrats.
One in particular, who's about a quarter century older than me, talks just like any conservative.
Complains about the same things I complain about. To ruffle his feathers I call him a "closet conservative".
He won't abide by the pro-noun policies at our job, same as me. Thinks the government wasted money, and we live in a deep blue state. Owns guns. Believes in meritocracy.
I was baffled when I first met him.
But, I've come to understand where he's coming from. At over 70 years of age, he grew up in a different era. When Democrats were different than today. He willfully ignores the new variant of Democrat. He is loyal to "his team" no matter how debaucherous they have become. He avoid talking about what the current Democrat party is about. He only relates to the Democrat party of the past. He's also very loyal about Unions, of which we are both members, but he agrees that the Union no longer has our best interests in mind. However, he's team blue until the end.

Very easy guy to get along with because we can complain about the same things all day long (some dude in a different department just got a boob job, we have fun with that).

My opinion is that both parties are going through huge changes, and it seems to me that some people no longer align with the goals of the new versions of party they have long affiliated with.

Absolutely. You just described my late grandfather. It was mainly the union thing. My parents were also Democrats, but switched parties in the late 60's or early 70's.

It's no longer your parent's/grandparent's Democrat party. It has been taken over and consumed by the Marxists and has morphed into something no longer recognizable. The best thing old school Dems could do is overwhelmingly stop voting for their party until there reset back towards the center.