Ring Suggestions For Thousand Yard Rifle

[3MTA3]

I'm contemplating a rifle that can shoot to a thousand yards. It's been a whopping long time since I've bought scope rings for a boltie, so I wanted to get some input on brands and models, especially considering a precision/tactical type of rifle.

Cartridge is 6.5 CM so recoil is mild, Scope is the Primary Arms 3-18 Apollo whose ACSS reticle is designed for a 140 grain 6.5 CM. Tube is 30mm, bell is 50mm +-. Still deciding on the actual riflels, top contenders are something in the Savage 110 Tactical series and the Tikka tactical, but that's another thread .

Both rifles have picatinny rails mounted to the receiver. Thoughts on if I should go with those as the base or would it be better to remove the rail and go with different bases or would it even make a difference?

Also, any reason to go with steel over aluminum rings or vice versa? Weight isn't a huge factor. Steel should be stronger, more rigid less likely to strip, but I figure aluminum rings would expand and contract with temperature changes the same as the scope tube. Does is make an difference? Yup, overthinking things as always...

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[Stomper]

Here's my .308 Tikka T3xCTR with a Leupold VX-3iLRP

30mm tube, 50mm objective

OEM pic-rail mount.

Badger Ordinance 20MOA one-piece scope base, but their "standard" rings are amazing as well.

Have gotten 1/4" MOA (or better) at 1000-yds. with it.

 

[Stomper]

Edited to add:

The scope base is already 20MOA



It'll set you back >$200... when they're in stock.

 

[3MTA3]

Here's my .308 Tikka T3xCTR with a Leupold VX-3iLRP

30mm tube, 50mm objective

OEM pic-rail mount.

Badger Ordinance 20MOA one-piece scope base, but their "standard" rings are amazing as well.

Have gotten 1/4" MOA (or better) at 1000-yds. with it.

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Curious, seeing as how that is one of the two platforms at the top of my list - is the stainless barrel for easier cleaning, or is it considered more accurate? Obviously, with half MOA groups the 20" barrel isn't lacking in the accuracy dept!

 

[Stomper]

I got the SS for "ease" of maintenance, plus I've never had a SS rifle before.

As for accuracy potential.... you tell me.


Hot barrel, last three shots of the day before we packed up our gear. @DB is Here witnessed me shoot that group.

 

[Jbquick]

Any reason you haven't considered a 1 piece mount? They're kinda spendy but there's nothing to mess up alignment wise and they don't need lapping either. I run a spuhr mount and it is rock solid, plus it comes with a little tool that automatically levels the scope inside of it.

 

[3MTA3]

Any reason you haven't considered a 1 piece mount? They're kinda spendy but there's nothing to mess up alignment wise and they don't need lapping either. I run a spuhr mount and it is rock solid, plus it comes with a little tool that automatically levels the scope inside of it.

That's kind of what this thread is all about - learning what my options are. Actually just read about Spuhr just today. Great system, but it's probably not in my budget, which is $200ish, but if I can do it for less then that's room for more ammo.

I've focused more on rings since generally I want to keep the scope as low as possible and most of the mounts I've seen that combine the base and ring are F marked sight height, and both rifles already have pic rails attached. With rings I have more flexibility on height.

What I'm looking for at the end of the day is a rock solid mount that places the scope as close to the barrel as possible

 

[Oregonhunter5]

Warne

 

[Jbquick]

What I'm looking for at the end of the day is a rock solid mount that places the scope as close to the barrel as possible

I guess it depends on the rifle and scope, I believe the mounts have different heights available. I can't remember what height I went with but it got me close enough.

 

[Kruel J]

Any reason you haven't considered a 1 piece mount? They're kinda spendy but there's nothing to mess up alignment wise and they don't need lapping either. I run a spuhr mount and it is rock solid, plus it comes with a little tool that automatically levels the scope inside of it.

Some most certainly do need lapping. I was having a scope issue and sent it back to Vortex along with the mount, a Burris one piece. They lapped it and it needed it. One piece mounts are not immune.

 

[8x68s]

For further recommendations see Long Range Hunting Forum. Kind of a one stop source for info on everything long range.... a good bunch of folks to socialize with!

 

[P7M13]

Spur, Seekins, Badger.
Any of those will give you rock-solid mounts.
I have Sphur, Badger and Leupold on my LR rigs, 2 EGW 20 MOA rails on the Savage rifles, and a MDT Tac-21 20MOA chassis for the Remy..

 

[Lazyfaire]

Bolt or semi-auto?
A lot will depend on the bell of your scope. It has to clear the rifle barrel or rail. I personally think a 3-18 will be hard at 1000 but others may differ (old eyes here). I have an RPR and put a Tract 4.5-30x56 on it and with rings the bell still hit the rail. Had to go to a Midwest 20 MOA one piece to clear the rail.

 

[3MTA3]

Bolt or semi-auto?
A lot will depend on the bell of your scope. It has to clear the rifle barrel or rail. I personally think a 3-18 will be hard at 1000 but others may differ (old eyes here). I have an RPR and put a Tract 4.5-30x56 on it and with rings the bell still hit the rail. Had to go to a Midwest 20 MOA one piece to clear the rail.

Bolt action, either a Savage 110 tactical or a Tikka T3X tactical. Bell of scope is 50mm, but have to account for lens caps. Won't know for sure until I get them and measure.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I would share my secret sauce, but............
Shooters envy precludes that!
Outside that, Seekins rings or the no longer available GG&G rings are where it's at for a more traditional ring to base type set up!

 

[Ura-Ki]

For the record, that Set up on @Stomper s Tikka is pretty bomb proof for a range rig/light duty hunting that most will see, and I can confirm it does in fact shoot gooder then most shootas, even while eatin my brass!

 

[erslll]

Seekins is my choice. Vortex PMR rings are rebranded Seekins.

 

[No_Regerts]

Any time a heavier scope is used, I would suggest steel rings with a wider footprint, and steel mounts. This is especially the case because all of my preferred cartridge/rifle combos generate between 20 and 40 ft lbs of recoil. I've seen more than one set of aluminum rings give up the ghost on heavier scopes.