National Remington drops bushmaster, tapco, and dpms

[Boboclown]

Is Remington Leaving the MSR Market? DPMS, Bushmaster and TAPCO Sites are Shuttered - The Truth About Guns

UPDATE: a dealer friend of ours received an email today from distribution giant RSR Group notifying them of the following: Remington Outdoor Company informed RSR at the SHOT Show that they will be focusing on their core hunting and shooting brands – AAC, Barnes, Marlin and Remington. Bushmaster...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Sounds fuddery related if ya ask me.

Read More

 

[BPOR11]

Colt, now Remington and the statement from Daniel Defense?

What's up with them?

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Remington has long ago ceased to be the Remington Firearms Co. of my youth...
Which is a shame , since at one time they put out fine , high quality firearms , that a workingman could afford.

While not really a fan of the AR15 rifle....it is a good rifle and this move seems to be yet another in a long series of mistakes for "The Big Green".
Andy

 

[Boboclown]

Remington has long ago ceased to be the Remington Firearms Co. of my youth...
Which is a shame , since at one time they put out fine , high quality firearms , that a workingman could afford.

While not really a fan of the AR15 rifle....it is a good rifle and this move seems to be yet another in a long series of mistakes for "The Big Green".
Andy

Now they put out stuff a working man can afford but less than what they deserve. For budget rifles I'd go ruger. For quality? Tikka, LMT, etc depending on what I'm shopping for.

 

[2A2Dend]

What's this mention of Daniel Defense?

 

[WoodsPlinker]

Sucks to hear, we have a lot of parts from all those companies..

 

[Basedgreaser]

Now they put out stuff a working man can afford but less than what they deserve. For budget rifles I'd go ruger. For quality? Tikka, LMT, etc depending on what I'm shopping for.

Ide love to see what LMT could do for an ak. Could you imagine the monoloithic rail in an ak platform?

 

[Basedgreaser]

So does this mean for bushys acr?

 

[Goosebrown]

Remington has long ago ceased to be the Remington Firearms Co. of my youth...
Which is a shame , since at one time they put out fine , high quality firearms , that a workingman could afford.

While not really a fan of the AR15 rifle....it is a good rifle and this move seems to be yet another in a long series of mistakes for "The Big Green".
Andy

Seems like it's going back TO the firearms company of your youth. Nothing wrong with that.

MSRs are great but they aren't worth building in this market. Way too many out there at way too low a price. They are just commodities and that places a huge downward pressure on prices.

We always subscribe sinister intent but really it's just dollars.

Want a better industry? Get more people to shoot. Same as changes in laws.

It is only a numbers game.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Seems like it's going back TO the firearms company of your youth. Nothing wrong with that.

I can only hope so....but To be honest I kinda doubt it....be nice to be wrong though.

I understand what your are saying about AR15 type rifles as being too many out there to be competitive...but I think that stopping the production of such sends the wrong message.....as seen by :

We always subscribe sinister intent

Even if it really is , as you state ...its just dollars...
Again it would be nice for me to be wrong here.
Andy

 

[Hueco]

I can only hope so....but To be honest I kinda doubt it....be nice to be wrong though.

I understand what your are saying about AR15 type rifles as being too many out there to be competitive...but I think that stopping the production of such sends the wrong message.....as seen by :


Even if it really is , as you state ...its just dollars...
Again it would be nice for me to be wrong here.
Andy

I may be an outlier here, but the way I see it:

The current attack on 2A is being led by twitter "activists" and some baby boomers in congress that think getting mentions on Twitter is the end-all-be-all of their political careers.

The next generation (those 16-18 now) are polling more conservative than their parents by a long shot. The pendulum is swinging.

If I were a betting man, I'd be shoring up my company to be in a good position to start to capture that market when they get some dollars into their hands in ~5-10 years.

That means: weather the current storm, divest losing products, reinvest in winners, start advertising and building the brand for the next generation.

It's up to us, now, to make sure 2A is around for that youth when they get there, but I have no qualms about them taking up the flag when they're ready.

 

[Boboclown]

Ide love to see what LMT could do for an ak. Could you imagine the monoloithic rail in an ak platform?

Faxon arms used ak gas system in an AR and made it a monolithic rail. Downside, no forward assist. And not a reciprocating ch either.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I may be an outlier here, but the way I see it:

The current attack on 2A is being led by twitter "activists" and some baby boomers in congress that think getting mentions on Twitter is the end-all-be-all of their political careers.

The next generation (those 16-18 now) are polling more conservative than their parents by a long shot. The pendulum is swinging.

If I were a betting man, I'd be shoring up my company to be in a good position to start to capture that market when they get some dollars into their hands in ~5-10 years.

That means: weather the current storm, divest losing products, reinvest in winners, start advertising and building the brand for the next generation.

It's up to us, now, to make sure 2A is around for that youth when they get there, but I have no qualms about them taking up the flag when they're ready.

That would be nice to see...
I don't see it happening that way....but again....it would be good for me to be wrong here.
Andy

 

[Boboclown]

That would be nice to see...
I don't see it happening that way....but again....it would be good for me to be wrong here.
Andy

I've been hoping to be wrong regarding the future of our 2A. So far...

 

[No_Regerts]

I'd love to see Remington drop all the AR crap and go back to making decent rifles and shotguns. In the effort to join that flooded market, Big Green forgot what made it the Big Green.

 

[Boboclown]

I'd love to see Remington drop all the AR crap and go back to making decent rifles and shotguns. In the effort to join that flooded market, Big Green forgot what made it the Big Green.

They didn't just drop ARs. Tapco made AK parts that people use for 922r and such. As well as parts for other guns.

 

[No_Regerts]

Now they put out stuff a working man can afford but less than what they deserve. For budget rifles I'd go ruger. For quality? Tikka, LMT, etc depending on what I'm shopping for.

The only reason companies like Tikka have any market share is because companies like Remington decided to slack off on their bread and butter. Their QC went down the tube and people had to look elsewhere. Tikka was laughed at when they came out because of all the plastic and the one-size-fits-all approach. Now, they are the best of the cheap guns and we have to swallow our desire for a nice rifle and buy Tikkas. I own several, and the first thing I do when I buy one is throw away as much of the plastic as I can.

 

[Boboclown]

The only reason companies like Tikka have any market share is because companies like Remington decided to slack off on their bread and butter. Their QC went down the tube and people had to look elsewhere. Tikka was laughed at when they came out because of all the plastic and the one-size-fits-all approach. Now, they are the best of the cheap guns and we have to swallow our desire for a nice rifle and buy Tikkas. I own several, and the first thing I do when I buy one is throw away as much of the plastic as I can.

I rarely like any stock from factory, be it wood or plastic. So usually I'm buying another wood stock to begin with if I want wood.

 

[No_Regerts]

They didn't just drop ARs. Tapco made AK parts that people use for 922r and such. As well as parts for other guns.

They had no reason to be in that market in the first place.

 

[Kruel J]

The only reason companies like Tikka have any market share is because companies like Remington decided to slack off on their bread and butter. Their QC went down the tube and people had to look elsewhere. Tikka was laughed at when they came out because of all the plastic and the one-size-fits-all approach. Now, they are the best of the cheap guns and we have to swallow our desire for a nice rifle and buy Tikkas. I own several, and the first thing I do when I buy one is throw away as much of the plastic as I can.

Exactly. Tikka's are fine rifles but to qualify them as "nice" is a forced decision based on the lack of other viable options in that price point.