Proof of purchase date

[CharlesAFerg]

People are so worried about being "on a list," that they put themselves "on a list" by documenting their own private property with the intention of sharing it with the government to "disprove" their "guilt?"

Weird.

2. The "I'm gonna be soooo compliant there's no way they'll find fault with me" attitude is pretty silly.

This.

 

[ar man]

One shall not have disclose when they purchased there personal property. have it documented somewhere and backed up if you want. but definitely make the official that is asking work for it God forbid the government or state has to actually do there job once since there division being established

 

[ar man]

They will hang you evidence or not if they want. If you don't think so then you must have high faith in the government

 

[osprey]

Here is what I will present for proof.




And if that doesn't work I have this for back up!

 

[1775usmc]

Trusts. Newspapers. Polaroids. Receipts. Blah blah blah.

There is no way to prove the mags you have in your possession are the same ones that are listed in a document or that appear in a photo. No serial numbers. No special identification markers. No tattoos or birth marks. It's a piece of metal/plastic.

Again the fact that people are trying to create proof and sh!t something out of thin air is beyond me. Anything you see/suggest as proof can be easily disassembled and destroyed in court.

Just because it's enough proof for you doesn't mean it won't be torn apart and dismantled. Please do us all a favor and stop. Or go play your game in the closet.

 

[Koda]

We don't need proof of purchase just proof of possession before the date and for that a dated photo will work. After that its up to them to prove your photo is fake.

the only question now is if the 114 law is reinstated is what was the original date and does that hold in effect? What is the new law (that repeals 114 but enacts the same thing) grandfather date?

 

[ar man]

What's 114 lol

 

[ar man]

If they require full ammo count mag count and pictures of all your guns and serial numbers. Full inventory how many would comply then

 

[PiratePast40]

If they require full ammo count mag count and pictures of all your guns and serial numbers. Full inventory how many would comply then

Unfortunately, many here have already stated they will go to extraordinary means to jump through any hoop, real or imagined, made up by the government or Joe Bob at the end of the bar munching on peanuts.

 

[ar man]

Some people will and some people will not. Good old circus activities.

 

[Jay Walk]

So, we can all just use the same Photo then?
Brilliant.

 

[1775usmc]

We don't need proof of purchase just proof of possession before the date and for that a dated photo will work. After that its up to them to prove your photo is fake.

the only question now is if the 114 law is reinstated is what was the original date and does that hold in effect? What is the new law (that repeals 114 but enacts the same thing) grandfather date?

Prove the mags in the photo are the same ones you have in your possession.

At the end of the day I won't be waisting my time with any of this cause my collection will possibly continue to grow. lol.

 

[Koda]

Prove the mags in the photo are the same ones you have in your possession.

At the end of the day I won't be waisting my time with any of this cause my collection will possibly continue to grow. lol.

I don't have to prove my evidence is bad, the burden of proof is now on the state to prove you didn't already own the mag in your possession.

 

[1775usmc]

I don't have to prove my evidence is bad, the burden of proof is now on the state to prove you didn't already own the mag in your possession.

lol. Ok.

 

[Jay Walk]

If I take a picture of a C8, that don't make it mine.

 

[Koda]

lol. Ok.

 

[1775usmc]

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As long as you believe in yourself.

 

[WillametteWill]

This may be far fetched but here goes…
If you have to prove that you purchased high capacity magazines before a specific date…
Put down a piece of newspaper, clearly showing today's date and lay magazines on top. Take a photo and voila, proof.
Probably a goofy idea full of holes but hey, it's the internet. Goofy ideas abound. And The Dude abides.

As @1775usmc noted, it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove anything about proof of ownership (i.e., date, or that it is yours) for an unsterilized item. I have a newspaper in my cave from the 1950's. If I take my photo next to it, does that mean I was alive 10 years before I was?

I'm not sure that's true as "affirmative defense" is written into the law. Affirmative defense means you violated the law but you had a legit reason for doing so, such as "I purchased them before the ban." But you have to prove that.

Yes, it is...because they are evil:

(5) As of the effective date of this 2022 Act, it shall be an affirmative defense, as provided in ORS 166.055, to the unlawful possession, use and transfer of a large-capacity magazine in this state by any person, provided that: (a) The large-capacity magazine was owned by the person before the effective date of this 2022 Act and maintained in the person's control or possession; or
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They could have written a grandfather clause, but they decided to place the impossible burden on the citizens...again, because they are evil. (If I understand your post correctly, forgive me if I failed with this).

Affirmative defense is illegal under us law. This law will be overturned easily

As noted by @ilikegunspdx , all self defense cases are affirmative defenses. They use this wording because they know it is an unethical alternative to a 'grandfather clause"...and did I mention they are evil.

 

[Mono1]

An old newspaper receipt does not prove old magazines.

You're right. I think we are all just scrood Blue.

 

[Mono1]

Please do us all a favor and stop. Or go play your game in the closet.

I would, but there's no closet thread.