Pre-ban AR15 Competition H Bar

[CamoDeafie]

I have the original front site here. I installed the gas block probably 25 years ago as I was going to use a scope.

Oh okay, that gas block threw me for a loop given that it's a big hole, flat top upper... I'd say that gives it some more desirability, compared to the usual/more common fixed carry handle big hole uppers (Slickside, some A1, A2, and C7); especially with the original front sight in the package.

 

[BlackdogGS]

Front sight

 

[CamoDeafie]

Honestly I could see North of $800 for that specific rifle simply because of the scarcity of big-hole flat top uppers. Daniel Defense is the only other maker doing such

 

[BlackdogGS]

My cousin back in Michigan also has a H Bar he wants to sell. He never fired his.

 

[BlackdogGS]

Got me to thinking, back when I bought this the only place to get AR parts was either Colt or Armalite. The gas block I installed was from Armalite.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Pre ban machine guns are always sought after.

People use the word "pre-ban" to refer to many different things, many of which make no difference at all except to others who like to say their X is "pre-ban".

For example in this area saying your magazine is "pre-ban" would be the same as saying it's "pre-1994" which means nothing. It would be just as as accurate to say "it's old".

 

[CamoDeafie]

Pre ban machine guns are always sought after.

People use the word "pre-ban" to refer to many different things, many of which make no difference at all except to others who like to say their X is "pre-ban".

For example in this area saying your magazine is "pre-ban" would be the same as saying it's "pre-1994" which means nothing. It would be just as as accurate to say "it's old".

But this is not a machine gun. It's the Colt R6700 Sporter Competition HBAR. In the context, it was made before the 1994 AWB. Although... That doesn't really matter in this State ..but the fact remains, the collectibility of this model is more due to the relatively uncommon flat top setup, with the big front pin hole. Like I said, only Daniel Defense offers such a flat top receiver, in fact that's how they got started; making M4/A4 uppers with the big front hole for those who didn't get the Colt flat tops with the big front hole for the States where you had to have a pre-1994 lower..at that time.

 

[BlackdogGS]

The 6700 is covered here. It was the first flat-top produced by Colt.

View: https://youtu.be/D3_tlM2fdWM?si=zPMoM1JirIT3WbLc

 

[jbett98]

I inherited a mint 1975 Colt SP-1 Sporter and haven't fired it to see how accurate it is, compared to newer AR-15's.
Also in the collection was an Armalite AR-180 that I have shot, and it's very accurate, plus it's lot's of fun with an original 40 rd. magazine.

 

[BlackdogGS]

I'll set a price at $1,300 and go from there. I seen one at the Klamath Falls gun show last week end for $1,500 that was well used.
I'll have it at the Rickreall show this weekend.
I also have a 6949 and 6920.

 

[User 1234]

I would consider putting the original gas block back on it. The financial value comes from having the original parts.

 

[Member 86767]

We have sold "new" ones, and by that I mean in the box and un-fired for $899 to $1299. They are not the biggest player in the pre-ban market to say the least. All that stuff is down right now. We also sold an SVD for a little under what we thought it would go for, and in was a rare one. $1599 is a good starting point, lots of folks want to avoid the fees and stuff associated with the on-line sites and being able to hold it makes a big diff to many folks.

 

[BlackdogGS]

This is interesting on the 6700.

Receiver says 223, barrel says 5.56.

 

[CamoDeafie]

This is interesting on the 6700.

Receiver says 223, barrel says 5.56.

View attachment 2208975 View attachment 2208976

Receiver markings can be anything the company wants to put on, the barrel markings are the more important thing; 5.56 marking means NATO standard chamber, and not older SAAMI .223 Rem chamber which has a shorter throat and depending on the barrel, may not be that good for NATO 5.56 rounds. I've found documentation that certain .223 Rem barrels from Douglas, Krieger and Bushmaster (DCM Competition HBAR for example), have super short and tight chambers that blow primers out on NATO M193 and M855s.

 

[BlackdogGS]

I would consider putting the original gas block back on it. The financial value comes from having the original parts.

Done!

 

[CamoDeafie]

@BlackdogGS , just because a vendor had a well used vintage Colt AR for $1500, at the gun show...doesn't mean it sold for that much. If it sold for that much, then that's one thing. But if it's notably still available at the end? It did not sell. $1300 to start with as the highest, would be reasonable IMO. The other guy, West Coast Wes is correct; the AR market across the board is down, because there are so many out there available, and so many good ones for good prices that it's driving the values of the vintage Colts down, except for the transferable machine guns, and even the fact of FRT and Super Safety trigger systems being available and federally legal, is pushing the costs of those transferable machine guns down a little bit.