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Pocket 9MM

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by JamesG, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. JamesG

    JamesG Tacoma Active Member

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    Hi Folks:

    If you had $700 to spend on a small, reliable, fairly accurate single stack 9MM what would your choice be? I have a Walther PPS and would like something a tad bit smaller.

    Thank You:

    James
     
  2. DireWolf

    DireWolf Oregon Active Member

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    P938
     
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  3. 2gr8dgs

    2gr8dgs oregon Active Member

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    Kahr pm9
     
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  4. wombat

    wombat Kirkland, WA Member

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    hmmm ... depends on your pocket doesn't it! Smaller than a PPS? Single stack ... and from the subject heading, pocket-able?

    KelTec PF9, with hornady 115gr for SD; upgraded with a Northwood trigger. Pocket-able in cargos and ummm, loose fit jeans! A Galco STO652 IWB holster for dress jeans/slacks. Lifetime warranty (it's true, I know).

    I also have a Solo (with Fed 124gr for SD), though that's likely out of your budget. Holster is an IWB Summer Comfort

    +1 with wolf and 2gr8dgs (huh, both woofers); kahr has a great trigger out of the box with v.good white dot sights; the 938 is a SIG, has night sights and has that mini 1911 look if you like it ... out of the box (new) either is good choice. A Kahr CW9 is a little cheaper. Either of the Kahrs are not jeans pocket-able, more cargo pants. The PM9 is likely a better choice than a PF9, that depends on how it feels for you.

    Don't overlook the Beretta Nano ... SIG P290 RS (I like this), DiamondBack DB9 (you'll have to try it yourself)
    Rohrbaugh R9 - very nice if you can find one in your budget; I would consider the R9 a real pocket gun (just my opinion folks!)

    Older AMT Backups in 9mm are also good at that end of the spectrum too ... many ARE reliable but are backup guns, not range guns. Definitely pocket-able.

    Do you want to spend a lot of time practicing with the eventual choice of a pocket-able 9mm?

    And a lot of M&P Shield owners aren't complaining; the M&P 9c is about the same size as the Shield, though some would have objective thoughts on either being really 'pocket-able'.

    S&W J-frames don't do it?

    Get to a range that rents and try a few pocket 9!

    Others will chime in with their opinions ...

    :)
     
  5. JohnnyD

    JohnnyD Vancouver Bang Bang

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    The shield might be pocketable but not the 9c. I'm a big guy and the 9c won't fit in any of my pockets.
     
  6. AngryRedTicTac

    AngryRedTicTac Vancouver, WA Active Member

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    I LOVE my P938, it is fantastically concealable, superbly accurate (for a tiny pistol), and is just plain fun to shoot. I would put that cash on one again in a heartbeat. I have shot a ton of those sub compacts, and that one is the best. So long as you are up for a cocked and locked baby 1911 in your pocket. Mine is IWB, haven't bought a pocket holster yet, and definitely won't carry without one...
     
  7. JamesG

    JamesG Tacoma Active Member

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    Thanks All:

    I do like the looks and feel of the 938 but have heard quite a few guys have had issus with them.

    James
     
  8. AngryRedTicTac

    AngryRedTicTac Vancouver, WA Active Member

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    The newer the P938, the better. Using larger bullets is something a lot of owners have had to do, mine devours garbage 115 grain Win White Box without a issue. At the very least, if you get a cranky one, Sig has done a great job squaring up the little guns. If you find yourself down our way I'd be happy to let you try mine. I've sold a couple friends on them, now they're trying to score deals on the respective model choices.
     
  9. twowheels

    twowheels portland, OR Active Member

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    I've got an lc9 but if I want something in a front pocket the j frame usually gets the nod. I also have and love a 239 but its a little too big for a pocket.
     
  10. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    I love my Kahr PM9. Fits in my pocket and is accurate. Don't love the sights, but they are not horrible either.
     
  11. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    Why not a J-Frame?
     
  12. Gunfan

    Gunfan Vancouver Member

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    I have a S&W Airweight Model 632 "Centennial" revolver that works really well. Moderately powerful (.32 H&R Magnum) six rounds (as quick as you please) and as accurate as one could hope.

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  13. Gunfan

    Gunfan Vancouver Member

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    I currently carry a Kel-Tec P-11 that works quite well. Don't want a 380, (not enough penetration for my taste.) It's either that or my .32 Magnum that will "accomplish the task."

    Scott
     
  14. Gunfan

    Gunfan Vancouver Member

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    I seem to shoot really well with my .32 Magnum. It hits hard and penetrates deeply. Accurate fire isn't an issue. The problem is that everyone wants a hot load in a "pocket revolver."

    There's always someone with "more money than brains." Bubba buys a 2" barreled Airweight .38 Special, loads it to the gunwales with +P ammunition. He then complains about how it is difficult to shoot. (Never admitting that he made a mistake, because he would be seen as "unmanly" or "weak.") This is the foolhardiness that causes no end of trouble along with the hue and cry about the short barreled .38 S&W Special being "uncontrollable."

    While shooting discipline is important, trying to hold a stick of dynamite in your hand (a Scandium .357 Magnum) and use it to show everyone how much strength (or courage) you have, is stupid.

    Scott
     
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    Gunfan Vancouver Member

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    If I could take you out with my Model 632 Airweight Centennial, you would be in for a pleasant surprise. For practice, the .32 Longs are a true delight and the .32 Magnums are an easy shoot. The .32 Magnum is quite effective, and is cheap to handload. If you'd like to try it, leave me a note, and we can arrange to let you shoot the cartridge later this spring.

    Scott
     
  16. 2gr8dgs

    2gr8dgs oregon Active Member

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    IMO For a pocket gun, well any defensive handgun, you can break it down to 2 things.
    you have confidence in it.
    you shoot it well.
    I was going to say 3 things. It should feel good in the hand. but if you shoot it well, & have confidence in it, how it feels is irrelevant. some of my glocks fall into this category. I love j frames but agree, it is no gun for a novice.
     
  17. jmcdowellpdx

    jmcdowellpdx Tigard New Member

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    I bought and carry a Diamondback DB9.

    Its small enough for the front pocket of my jeans and looks like a baby Glock.
    I love the look and feel and when it runs smoothly, it shoots great even though its such a small frame.

    I put some cheaper fmj ammo (which I've read they can have trouble with) through it this weekend and could barely get through a mag without an issue...now I'm not confident in it for carry... atleast I won't be until I can put a bunch of premium SD JHPs through it without an issue...

    maybe should have bought a Kahr PM9...
     
  18. twowheels

    twowheels portland, OR Active Member

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    Love my 642. Reliable as a brick, powerful, easy to carry as it fits in a skinny guy's front pocket, and a bad *** piece, not for lightweights. It takes some work to be able to shoot well. It'll blacken your off hand thumb but it's so easy to carry that you don't leave it behind.
     
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    2gr8dgs oregon Active Member

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    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  20. JamesG

    JamesG Tacoma Active Member

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    I went to the gun show in Puyallup today and got to get a feel for many of the smaller 9's. The PM9 probably felt the best but I also liked the Nano and 938. I have owned many J'frames with the model 60 my favorite but at nearly 60 years old I want to make a change. I will make a decision soon.

    Thanks for the help.

    James