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Phoenix Arms HP 22 cracked frame

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by Mohycle, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. Mohycle

    Mohycle Western Wa New Member

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    Just wanted to pass on this info.
    Cracks on the HP 22 frame, along the top edge where the metal is extremely thin, are a widely reported problem. I had around 700 rounds through mine and noticed the crack on the left side. Looks like the right side will soon have one as well. Anyway, it being such a cheap gun, I figured I'd try to fix it myself. Just broke off the cracked piece and dremeled it smooth. Then I sanded with 400 grit. Didn't seem to weaken it. Fired 100 or so Federals through it; no problems at all.
    These guns are fairly crude, so taking them down and grinding, sanding and polishing the rough spots really helps. Smoothing out the take down lever and the slot it fits in makes take down much easier. I clean the whole gun after every range session.
    The magazine safety is really annoying, but fortunately it is easy to modify. Just remove the left side grip. It will be apparent what to do. You''ll also see how to adjust the magazine release tension.
    I've now got about 800 rounds through this and it remains a real nice shooter.
    Just ordered a 5" barrel for a little more accuracy.
    Good Luck with yours,
    Mo
     
  2. bnr32gtr

    bnr32gtr Vancouver, WA Member

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    From what I've read, this is a very common problem and it sounds like the warranty is good only to the original owner. Are you the original owner? If so, I'd contact PA: 909-947-4843

    Phoenix Arms: 1420 South Archibald Ave., Ontario, CA 91761
     
  3. GUNNY

    GUNNY DAMASCUS OREGON Member

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    my brother had the same prob with his, next time just send it to them and they will replace it with new parts, call and ask for an RMA #.
     
  4. Mohycle

    Mohycle Western Wa New Member

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    Thanks for the comments. I think this is a design defect, and it will happen to every unit eventually. I can live with my diy fix as it still shoots fine.
    Just installed a 5" barrel and tried it today. No accuracy improvement but it may need to seat in, or I may need to modify my grip for the new balance point. Or maybe I just had a bad day. It happens.
    Mo
     
  5. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    I have one that's been sitting in my safe for about 2 years now with a slide that cracked all the way through.

    Good info here. I'll have to call them up and see if it's covered.
     
  6. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Had one myself several years ago that cracked and Phoenix sent me a new gun - which I promptly sold. I too had the longer barrel but it shot better with the original. I learned my lesson with the Phoenix - stick with quality made "Name Brand" guns. The up side is it was a good shooter - for the money.
     
  7. GUNNY

    GUNNY DAMASCUS OREGON Member

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    my opinion fix that thing and sell it, if you want a good .22 pistol get the p22
    remember just my opinion,
     
  8. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    p22?

    I wouldnt go so far as to call the p22 "good"... maybe i'd call it "nifty"


    I'll stick to my rugers and buckmarks.
     
  9. GUNNY

    GUNNY DAMASCUS OREGON Member

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    that why i said my opinion, i will put my P22 against any 22 pistol out there, i have had it for over 3 years, i have torture tested this thing plenty of times, after 100 rnds it got submerged in a puddle with the mag next to it, then a shovel full of sand on top, it sat for two min, then was loaded and fired, no problem, did that for 525 rnds, with only one round that did'nt extract, i can hit a target at 120m all day, so ya it is better than good it's nifty
     
  10. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    I'll take that challenge any day. :D
     
  11. GUNNY

    GUNNY DAMASCUS OREGON Member

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    sweeet looser buys the beer.
    FYI, i like budweiser.:laugh:
     
  12. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    That wont matter, I dont like beer. :p

    Loser lets the winner's dog use his p22 as a chew toy :thumbup:

    :laugh:
     
  13. GUNNY

    GUNNY DAMASCUS OREGON Member

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    :laugh: nice
     
  14. ThomasCrow

    ThomasCrow United States New Member

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    this would be mine 303485_4098760826271_1200394827_3804926_416323457_n.jpg

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  15. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Phoenix will replace it free of charge!! Google them!
     
  16. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    Mine is now scrap metal.

    I just wont shoot a gun that has already broken apart in my hands and I dont want the liability of selling it to someone else.

    It's probably been melted into those little metal bands that hold erasers to the tops of pencils.