Oregon Oregon HB4145 - M114 Implementation bill for 2026 Session

[Hotdog 7]

Rep. Tran is now reporting that she felt Rep. Kropf created a hostile work enviroment. So he gets to bully a bill into passing committee and there's no recourse? Political corruption at its finest.

Bend Democrat created âhostile working environmentâ during gun bill vote, Portland lawmaker says

Rep. Thủy Trần changed her vote from a no to a yes following a tense exchange with Rep. Jason Kropf.

www.opb.org

 

[PiratePast40]

I happened to tune in just prior to the vote and Kropf was clearly trying to intimidate Tran during the meeting. Tran was commenting on HB4145 and Kropf was slamming her every chance he had. I wish that I had watched it past the vote and the "stand at ease" that Kropf called for.

Although it may be normal to have private conferences in the hall, I don't think that doing it after the vote has been cast is kosher.

I also have not seen where the FBI would delete the bgc after 24 hrs. I am sure that we all believe that the bcg information would not end up in a firearm registration file somewhere.

You are correct. They are only requesting that the FBI return fingerprint cards. Says nothing about electronic files or any background check information. This could work in our favor if we want to appeal to the anti-ice crowd and tell them that a federal agency will keep all of their information.

(f) The permit agent shall request the department to conduct a criminal background check, including but not limited to a fingerprint identification, first through state databases and then by submitting a request through the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The department shall request that the Federal Bureau of Investigation [shall] return the fingerprint cards used to conduct the criminal background check and [may] not keep any record of the fingerprints.

 

[arakboss]

What do suppose happens to all the prints the Feds get when they receive 4473s from defunct FFLs? My guess is the Feds keep them.

 

[Vendor Hidden]

Nothing boosts gun sales like gun control!

 

[PiratePast40]

What do suppose happens to all the prints the Feds get when they receive 4473s from defunct FFLs? My guess is the Feds keep them.

Isn't that just a thumb print?

I've had so many FBI checks because of security clearances that I'm not worried about what they do with the dozens of sets my prints. State agencies - that's a whole different animal, and I believe we have reason to be concerned when states are run by deranged individuals.

 

[jcg5352]

Kropf resigned from from the Oregon House Joint Committee: https://www.kptv.com/2026/02/24/ore...uct-committee-after-vote-pressure-allegation/

I could see this being done by him as appeasement and better optics of resigning on his own accord over being removed pre/post Legislative Equity Office investigation, but that's just me speculating.

 

[Midnite]

Kropf resigned from from the Oregon House Joint Committee: https://www.kptv.com/2026/02/24/ore...uct-committee-after-vote-pressure-allegation/

I could see this being done by him as appeasement and better optics of resigning on his own accord over being removed pre/post Legislative Equity Office investigation, but that's just me speculating.

Hope it's a message to other politicians like him. This probably the first time I've seen people come together to force someone to remove themselves. Proud of Oregonians in this moment.

 

[64MercurysRule]

Flaky Floyd Prosanski should be next .......

 

[Midnite]

Looks like HB4145 has passed the House. 33-19. Off to the Senate now...

75% of the testimony was against the bill, yet House Reps voted their way anyway. How is this representation? JFC.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Looks like HB4145 has passed the House. 33-19. Off to the Senate now...

75% of the testimony was against the bill, yet House Reps voted their way anyway. How is this representation? JFC.

Party doesn't care about people. Only about the Party.

 

[64MercurysRule]

Marxist will Marx .........

 

[nammac]

Looks like HB4145 has passed the House. 33-19. Off to the Senate now...

75% of the testimony was against the bill, yet House Reps voted their way anyway. How is this representation? JFC.

This is what happens when ya mail order ya politicians. Taxation without representation…. Think some guys dump some tea in some bay many years ago because of this…

 

[Will_White]

Marxist will Marx .........

"under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered"

 

[64MercurysRule]

Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin called for an armed proletariat militia, writing that organizers should "arm all the poor, exploited sections of the population in order that they themselves should take the organs of state power directly into their own hands."

Once Lenin achieved power, however, he immediately turned to a proven method of oppression: gun confiscation. On Dec 10, 1918, less than six months after the Bolsheviks butchered Tsar Nicholas II and his family at a house in Yekaterinburg, Soviet citizens were ordered by the Council of People's Commissar to turn their firearms over to the state.
The penalty for refusal was ten years in prison.
Lenin was hardly an outlier. Marxists who followed in his footsteps, including Mao in China and Castro in Cuba, also turned to gun confiscation shortly after gaining power.

 

[StarEnterprize]

Not sure I'm posting links correctly or even if it matters at this point…as the public's opinion doesn't seem to matter. However, the NRA did send an email out with a link that makes it extremely easy to share your thoughts on HB4145 with our state senators.

Oregon: Ballot Measure 114 Override Bill Passes House

speak4.io

 

[AshWilliams]

"under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered"

This quote from Marx and Engels was not written in the context of modern American gun rights. It was about revolutionary strategy in 19th-century Europe and was tied to class revolution and not individual self-defense or constitutional rights like our Second Amendment.

 

[arakboss]

Can anybody provide concise description of legal status for 11+ mags in this bill?

My understanding is that if the court allows the M114 mag ban to proceed that all 11+ mags acquired after the original M114 ban date will be subject to restrictions in HB4145. Anybody disagree?

 

[PiratePast40]

Can anybody provide concise description of legal status for 11+ mags in this bill?

My understanding is that if the court allows the M114 mag ban to proceed that all 11+ mags acquired after the original M114 ban date will be subject to restrictions in HB4145. Anybody disagree?

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Go to Section 11 of 4145 A. That's the version linked at the top of the bill
(4)(a) It is an affirmative defense, as provided in ORS 161.055, to a charge of unlawful possession or use of a large-capacity magazine if the defendant (A) Owned the large-capacity magazine before the earlier of (i) January 1, 2027; or(ii) The date of a final appellate judgment reversing or vacating an injunction prohibiting the enforcement of ORS 166.355; or

Remember - words in italics are removed

 

[arakboss]

Go to Section 11 of 4145 A. That's the version linked at the top of the bill
(4)(a) It is an affirmative defense, as provided in ORS 161.055, to a charge of unlawful possession or use of a large-capacity magazine if the defendant (A) Owned the large-capacity magazine before the earlier of (i) January 1, 2027; or(ii) The date of a final appellate judgment reversing or vacating an injunction prohibiting the enforcement of ORS 166.355; or

Remember - words in italics are removed

I clicked on link you provided in first post of this thread. Is that an outdated version of bill?

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2026R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB4145/Introduced

 

[RVTECH]

Something that confuses me however is this part out of an OPB article yesterday:

The Oregon Supreme Court is currently weighing whether Measure 114 is constitutional after hearing oral arguments in November. If the high court rules that Measure 114 is constitutional, the measure is set to take effect in March. Should the high court rule in proponents' favor, the bill would make a number of changes to the original law.

Among other things, it would push back the law's magazine ban to 2027 and the permit requirement to January 2028. It would raise fees for applying for a gun permit from $65 to $150, and increase permit renewal fees from $50 to $110. And it would extend the amount of time an agent has to issue or deny a permit from 30 days to 60 days.

SO - even IF 114 is ruled 'unconstitutional' it's only temporary and gets pushed off until 2028?

I'll admit I am a little 'behind the times' with this and the House Bill 4145.