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HB4145 is the implementation and replacement for M114 for the 2026 session. You can read it here. Here's the summary:

SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's brief statement of the essential features of the measure as introduced. The statement includes a measure digest written in compliance with applicable readability standards Digest: The Act makes changes to the gun permit and transfer process and to the LCM prohibition. The Act goes into effect when the Governor signs it. (Flesch Readability Score: 73.2).Modifies the firearm permit provisions of Ballot Measure 114 (2022). Specifies where a person may apply for a permit to purchase a firearm and adds an eligibility requirement. Provides that information obtained during the application process and during the criminal background check and maintained within the database of permit holders is exempt from disclosure as a public record. Extends the time, from 30 to 60 days from receipt of the application, by which a permit agent must issue a permit to a qualified applicant or mail reasons for a denial in writing to the applicant. Increases the maximum fee that may be charged for an initial application for and renewal of a permit. Specifies the portion of the fee payable to the Department of State Police for conducting a criminal background check. Establishes alternatives to a firearms training course or class that may be used to satisfy the requirement of proof of completion of a firearm safety course for the permit. Provides that permits are not required for firearm transfers until January 1, 2028. Establishes an exception to the permit requirement for certain active and retired law enforcement officers. Modifies the affirmative defense language for the large capacity magazine provisions of Ballot Measure 114 (2022). Provides that a person may not be prosecuted for prohibited conduct occurring while enforcement of the provisions is enjoined by a court. Provides that gun dealers and manufacturers have 180 days after entry of an appellate judgment reversing or vacating the injunction to take certain actions concerning large capacity magazines. Provides that a challenge to the legality of the Act must be commenced in the Circuit Court for Marion County. Declares an emergency, effective on passage.


I haven't had a chance to go through all of it yet so will reserve comment for now.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD CLEAN AND STICK TO THE TOPIC. We don't need to post replies in the M114 thread.
 
So..... Is this basically an admission by the State that the permitting system is still not in place? :rolleyes:

Edit. Looks like they're trying to avoid angering more gun owners on an election year :s0140: in addition to the whole gas tax thing.

I mean, there's SB243 that sets implementation to March 2026 right?
 
So..... Is this basically an admission by the State that the permitting system is still not in place? :rolleyes:

Edit. Looks like they're trying to avoid angering more gun owners on an election year :s0140: in addition to the whole gas tax thing.

I mean, there's SB243 that sets implementation to March 2026 right?
OSP had 35 Million dollars to develop the permit system. My guess is that the permit system is ready to go. They've been working with the Dems and LEVO in private on this for quite a few years.
 
OSP had 35 Million dollars to develop the permit system. My guess is that the permit system is ready to go. They've been working with the Dems and LEVO in private on this for quite a few years.
So why did they introduce a bill to delay implementation for permit to purchase to Jan 2028???

Edit also, isn't there a legal challenge already out against the restriction of "forum shopping" for legal challenges from SB243 or something like that?
 
My guess would be that you're right about election year politics. We'll only get half the bread and circuses this year!
The Oregon Republican governor candidates ought to milk this for all its worth, point out that it cannot be an "emergency" if they keep delaying implementation of permit to purchase from 2022 to 2028, say why do they need to delay for two more years, after four years of it being on the books? Clearly there is no emergency and that it is clearly meant to keep the poors from exercising their 2A without State interference
 
The Oregon Republican governor candidates ought to milk this for all its worth, point out that it cannot be an "emergency" if they keep delaying implementation of permit to purchase from 2022 to 2028, say why do they need to delay for two more years, after four years of it being on the books? Clearly there is no emergency and that it is clearly meant to keep the poors from exercising their 2A without State interference
It's possible that the permit system can be put in place fairly quickly which would give people plenty of time to get one before it's required.
 
It's possible that the permit system can be put in place fairly quickly which would give people plenty of time to get one before it's required.
I'm saying since it is election year, the opposition party should take full advantage of it and put on blast that Legislature is delaying implementation of an "emergency" where there's none, and that the majority Party is trying to sneak stuff by not having it required until 2028.

We were able to mobilize for the gas tax referendum, I don't see why we wouldn't be able to mobilize for gun rights in Oregon
 
If it's been awhile since you've looked at one of these bills, wanted to help out with a few points.

*Changes are in Bold
*Passages in italics are the ones removed or replaced.
*When you go to the Bill Page In OLIS, you can check to see which version you're reading by clicking on the Amendments tab.
*Also on the bill page, click on the Measure History and Scheduled Events to see where it's been and the next scheduled action(s). For example, this bill will receive it's first reading on the House floor next Monday, February 2nd. You can watch it live, but remember that there will be many bills introduced on the first day so it'll be pretty hectic. There is also the administrative procedure that allows the bills to be machine read at two to three times normal speed so you probably won't be able to tell what they're saying most of the time.
*Committee meeting times and dates will be published and this is the time to testify in person or via remote or in writing. Do yourself a favor and get a good overview of this bill and begin drafting your written testimony and/or in-person testimony. Once those dates are published, expect to see some social media post urging everyone to get busy. This is the time for us to exercise our rights of being a part of the process. Win or loose, delaying and harassing fire is still effective when you're outnumbered.
 
And while all this is going on violent crime and shootings are down in Oregon ..... WITHOUT M114 in place . More guns , Less crime is the answer and result . If it was really about Safety & Security there would absolutely be no infringements going forward because it is not needed ..... But dracarian infringements are on the Leftist agenda , always has been & always will be .

CCRKBA Calls Out Media Over Latest Statistics Affirming That More Guns Mean Less Crime https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/media-more-guns-less-crime/
 
OFF Alert

First Gun Bill Of 2026​

01.30.2026
The first gun bill of the short 2026 session has been introduced. It appears the Democrats have more than increased taxes and fights with federal law enforcement in mind.
HB 4145 is a 27‑page bill modifying Ballot Measure 114, which is still on hold (as of at least today) in the Oregon Supreme Court.
Should the court decide that, yes, making it almost impossible to legally purchase a firearm is constitutional with a long history in American law, HB 4145, if passed, will be the new controlling language.
We have linked the bill above, but here are the main points from our first review of the bill.
  • The requirement for the all‑but‑impossible‑to‑get permit will be moved to January 2028. This appears to be an admission that no one responsible for creating these new restrictions has them ready yet.
  • The amount of time the authorities will have to issue said permits will double from 30 to 60 days.
  • The fee for the permit will go from $65.00 to $150.00.
While there is much to digest here, we think the most interesting part of the bill is the carve‑out for not only active law enforcement, but for off‑duty cops, as well as retired cops, probation officers, and parole officers. See the following:
(15) A valid permit to purchase a firearm issued under ORS 166.505 is not required for a firearm or unfinished frame or receiver purchase from a gun dealer under this section if the purchaser is a peace officer as defined in ORS 133.005, a parole and probation officer as defined in ORS 181A.355, or a retired peace officer or parole and probation officer who is a qualified retired law‑enforcement officer as defined in 18 U.S.C. 926C
The carve‑out also applies to magazines that you will be forbidden from having.
  1. Subsection (2) of this section does not apply at any time to: …
    (d) A peace officer, a parole and probation officer, or a retired peace officer or parole and probation officer who is a qualified retired law‑enforcement officer, who acquires, possesses, or uses a large‑capacity magazine, regardless of whether the acquisition, possession, or use is related to activities within the scope of the person's official duties or occurs while the person is off duty or after the person's retirement.
This is just another slap in the face of Oregon's gun owners.
The only reason off‑duty or former peace officers get to have what you are forbidden is because their lobbyists made a deal with the Democrats. What possible excuse does a retired probation officer have to possess a device that the Democrats, the courts, and the left‑leaning groups who fund them say is only good for killing lots of people as quickly as possible?
Apparently it's OK for retired and off‑duty police to have "weapons of war that have no place on our streets."
As we are seeing across the country, the left has a well‑organized and well‑funded machine prepared to riot and disrupt legitimate police actions. The Democrats are determined to make sure those people are better equipped than you are allowed to be.
These exceptions prove once again that the Democrats' propaganda is nothing more than a pile of lies.
Elections are coming. Will the Republicans stand up for us or cave again?
Ask them.
Representative Lucetta Elmer
House Minority Leader
Capitol Phone: 503‑986‑1424
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, H‑390, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: [email protected]
Website: https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/elmer
Senator Bruce Starr
Senate Minority Leader
Capitol Phone: 503‑986‑1712
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S‑303, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: [email protected]
Website: https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/starr
 
The Oregon Republican governor candidates ought to milk this for all its worth, point out that it cannot be an "emergency" if they keep delaying implementation of permit to purchase from 2022 to 2028, say why do they need to delay for two more years, after four years of it being on the books? Clearly there is no emergency and that it is clearly meant to keep the poors from exercising their 2A without State interference
Agree!
 
Crazy idea. Make it loud. Make it known, make it impossible to ignore; that the entire reason for these gun laws is for the politicians to decide who gets to have what. And that the 2A is for everyone; heck; tell people they need to be armed to go to protests.

Tell voters what's stopping politicians from deciding one day, that you the voter do not need to be armed any more? From revoking your whatever "license/ permit"? What's going to stop them from confiscating your guns should they decide you are too dangerous to be allowed the right to protect yourself?
 
Let's go beyond the 2A argument here.

Would you stand for a permit/license requirement to peacefully protest, to express yourself, to write opinions online, to produce content? (1st Amendment)


Would you want to have a permit/license, ask the govt permission to let them search your person, property or belongings? A permit that says they will get a warrant, but if you don't have a permit, they don't need a warrant? (4th Amendment)

How about requiring a permit to not incriminate yourself publicly or privately? (5th Amendment)


A license to grant you a speedy, fair trial, but without it, you may not get a speedy nor a fair trial? (6th Amendment)


Edit. Use the above in argument about why permits/licenses for exercising a Right are unconstitutional
 
The Oregon Republican governor candidates ought to milk this for all its worth, point out that it cannot be an "emergency" if they keep delaying implementation of permit to purchase from 2022 to 2028, say why do they need to delay for two more years, after four years of it being on the books? Clearly there is no emergency and that it is clearly meant to keep the poors from exercising their 2A without State interference
How do we approach making that happen? Direct contact with the candidates?
 

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