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I'm curious about open-sight accuracy. I know that there are some serious marksmen who can shoot amazingly small groups with specialized sights on benchrest rifles, but I'm curious about the average guy with the average rifle, or at least a fairly regular rifle capable of good accuracy.
I've been into guns for a very long time, and my interests have varied quite a bit through the years. I have rifles in the safe that haven't seen the light of day in years, even decades for some. I've never been a competitor or seriously into any particular discipline. I'm primarily a recreational shooter. I've always been interested in accuracy but have never put in any serious effort into getting really good.
Today I had the old Swiss K31 out. I've owned it for at least 20 years, but have only had it out to the range a few times. I've never fired factory ammo (or surplus) through it, just reloads. I finally got serious and carefully loaded some rounds with top quality bullets, based on a couple manuals and top recommended loads online. I shot several groups at 50 and 100 yards. These 5-shot groups were between 2-3 moa. It's been a very long time since I've fired any iron-sighted rifle capable of precision accuracy, from a bench.
So yes, I can work on my load for accuracy, and I can work on my accuracy and practice, practice, practice. I'm really just curious about what kind of accuracy anyone else gets. I read stories about people who shoot 1moa groups with a K31 with military iron sights. I don't doubt it, but am amazed by that kind of ability, and the level of eyesight I would think is required. I expect I can do better with practice and load development, but I'm not sure just how much better. With standard sights and my average eyesight, I think I'd be very happy with a consistent 2moa. I know some can do that with open-sighted revolvers, but to me that's a near-superhuman feat for someone with incredible discipline and the eyesight of an eagle.
No big deal. I'm not really into extreme accuracy nor am I driven to pursue the very best I can do. It's just a project I'm tinkering with and am curious about what kind of expectations others have with iron sights.
I've been into guns for a very long time, and my interests have varied quite a bit through the years. I have rifles in the safe that haven't seen the light of day in years, even decades for some. I've never been a competitor or seriously into any particular discipline. I'm primarily a recreational shooter. I've always been interested in accuracy but have never put in any serious effort into getting really good.
Today I had the old Swiss K31 out. I've owned it for at least 20 years, but have only had it out to the range a few times. I've never fired factory ammo (or surplus) through it, just reloads. I finally got serious and carefully loaded some rounds with top quality bullets, based on a couple manuals and top recommended loads online. I shot several groups at 50 and 100 yards. These 5-shot groups were between 2-3 moa. It's been a very long time since I've fired any iron-sighted rifle capable of precision accuracy, from a bench.
So yes, I can work on my load for accuracy, and I can work on my accuracy and practice, practice, practice. I'm really just curious about what kind of accuracy anyone else gets. I read stories about people who shoot 1moa groups with a K31 with military iron sights. I don't doubt it, but am amazed by that kind of ability, and the level of eyesight I would think is required. I expect I can do better with practice and load development, but I'm not sure just how much better. With standard sights and my average eyesight, I think I'd be very happy with a consistent 2moa. I know some can do that with open-sighted revolvers, but to me that's a near-superhuman feat for someone with incredible discipline and the eyesight of an eagle.
No big deal. I'm not really into extreme accuracy nor am I driven to pursue the very best I can do. It's just a project I'm tinkering with and am curious about what kind of expectations others have with iron sights.