On the inflation front ...

[Certaindeaf]

4 counties 1,200 pizza hut delivery drivers fired. Delivery by secondary means only now..

Pizza Hut restaurants in California could lay off thousands as minimum wage law goes into effect

Some California Pizza Hut franchisees say will do away with delivery to cover the operating margins when minimum wage for fast food workers increases to $20 an hour.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

 

[arakboss]

4 counties 1,200 pizza hut delivery drivers fired. Delivery by secondary means only now..

Pizza Hut restaurants in California could lay off thousands as minimum wage law goes into effect

Some California Pizza Hut franchisees say will do away with delivery to cover the operating margins when minimum wage for fast food workers increases to $20 an hour.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

Maybe it's the gig worker gangs conspiring to eliminate hourly positions.

 

[Alexx1401]

4 counties 1,200 pizza hut delivery drivers fired. Delivery by secondary means only now..

Pizza Hut restaurants in California could lay off thousands as minimum wage law goes into effect

Some California Pizza Hut franchisees say will do away with delivery to cover the operating margins when minimum wage for fast food workers increases to $20 an hour.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

People get what they vote for then are shocked when they have to pay for it.
Lot of people I work with have stuff delivered by Door Dash. The price of a "meal" from a place like McD's is shocking. The one lady who makes almost C note an hour said she can't understand it. She said I can sure as hell afford to do it. I just refuse to pay that kind of money for that kind of food. As price keeps going up though there will certainly be less people buying the stuff.

 

[Alexx1401]

Maybe it's the gig worker gangs conspiring to eliminate hourly positions.

We are already seeing law makers trying to find ways to price the Gig Workers out of the market too. Many of them will vote for what will end their jobs then cry to the same law makers to "fix it".

 

[made in china]

Now I gotta wonder if tavern/bar burgers are more expensive or not these days haven't been in a real bar or tavern in a very long time. Last time at Red Robin, everything was a little more expensive,but not by as much as McD's and BK apparently.

The leader of these price hikes seem to be the fast-food burger joints.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say they've seem to go up 300%. How many of us remember a Big Mac or Whopper being nearly $3 before the pandemic? I've seen these 2 be nearly $9 a la carte.

What's weird is that McD's has a very subpar chicken sandwich that is $2 more than the excellent Popeye's chicken sandwich. And people still go to these places!

Pub food definitely hasn't gone up that much in WA State, I eat pub food occasionally, it's still "reasonable" and about the same price for a nice meal as a McDonald's combo with an extra side.

What's CRAZY is that McD's is going to remove all of the self-serve soda machines, taking away the LAST bit of a deal they had. We've recently eaten at a McD's that charges for side sauces.
It seems these places have figured out Americans are addicted to their crap and they can raise prices and people will still buy.

 

[made in china]

Not sure how OR does it. WA is one of a few states that ALL the "help" has to be paid Min wage. We don't have the exemption for places where staff make tips. So up here every person at any eatery or bar is making at least min, which is getting close to $20 now. Many, even most working for it, have no idea that the employer has to pay a lot more than that to keep that worker. So price of everything they sell has to cover that cost.

I take this into account when paying my bill that has a tip line. Depending on the circumstances, it's zero tip for places that I mostly take care of myself, maybe a round-up tip, and at full service places we are at 10%-15% max tipping now.

When we go to other states with the "tipped service wage provision" where the help is paid less in anticipation of tips, we continue to tip 20% for good service.

 

[arakboss]

We are already seeing law makers trying to find ways to price the Gig Workers out of the market too. Many of them will vote for what will end their jobs then cry to the same law makers to "fix it".

Somebody has to deliver the food. Unless Amazon is going to do it, it's going to be gig workers or hourly employees. The day that people stop ordering take out isn't likely to happen in my lifetime. People are only getting lazier as time rolls on.

 

[Alexx1401]

The leader of these price hikes seem to be the fast-food burger joints.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say they've seem to go up 300%. How many of us remember a Big Mac or Whopper being nearly $3 before the pandemic? I've seen these 2 be nearly $9 a la carte.

What's weird is that McD's has a very subpar chicken sandwich that is $2 more than the excellent Popeye's chicken sandwich. And people still go to these places!

Pub food definitely hasn't gone up that much in WA State, I eat pub food occasionally, it's still "reasonable" and about the same price for a nice meal as a McDonald's combo with an extra side.

What's CRAZY is that McD's is going to remove all of the self-serve soda machines, taking away the LAST bit of a deal they had. We've recently eaten at a McD's that charges for side sauces.
It seems these places have figured out Americans are addicted to their crap and they can raise prices and people will still buy.

I have to "guess" this is like the people who will shop at a grocery store that is far more expensive than a different one blocks away? The people are used to shopping at the one? I have to guess McD's is like that. People going there because they "just always have"?? Suspect that at some point the price will finally get more to venture out and try others though. Last "meal" I bought at a McD was several years ago. Stopped at Wife's work and she asked me to get us lunch there. Even back then I thought surely they made a mistake when they told me the total. I took the food back and told Wife we could have had a meal in one of our favorite sit down places for just a few bucks more than the food in those bags. Food that was very sub par. She finally stopped eating there after that too. The one thing that may make them hold on longer is automation. The tech is about there now to make burger joints like that run with machines. People ordering at a touch screen and food made up by machines. They will only need a couple workers to do the work it used to take 10 or so to do. Every one of those workers they can eliminate saves a LOT of money in wages, insurance, and such.

 

[arakboss]

I have to "guess" this is like the people who will shop at a grocery store that is far more expensive than a different one blocks away? The people are used to shopping at the one? I have to guess McD's is like that. People going there because they "just always have"?? Suspect that at some point the price will finally get more to venture out and try others though. Last "meal" I bought at a McD was several years ago. Stopped at Wife's work and she asked me to get us lunch there. Even back then I thought surely they made a mistake when they told me the total. I took the food back and told Wife we could have had a meal in one of our favorite sit down places for just a few bucks more than the food in those bags. Food that was very sub par. She finally stopped eating there after that too. The one thing that may make them hold on longer is automation. The tech is about there now to make burger joints like that run with machines. People ordering at a touch screen and food made up by machines. They will only need a couple workers to do the work it used to take 10 or so to do. Every one of those workers they can eliminate saves a LOT of money in wages, insurance, and such.

Source: https://www.precedenceresearch.com/online-food-delivery-market

 

[Alexx1401]

I take this into account when paying my bill that has a tip line. Depending on the circumstances, it's zero tip for places that I mostly take care of myself, maybe a round-up tip, and at full service places we are at 10%-15% max tipping now.

When we go to other states with the "tipped service wage provision" where the help is paid less in anticipation of tips, we continue to tip 20% for good service.

Yep and the sad part is here its FAR more common now to have staff who act like they could care less. Since they don't need to hustle for tips. Wife often gets angry when I still tip well to some server who is making as much as they do here. I tell her I tip well since so many of them no longer try. So when one does still go out of their way to do it well they will get a good tip from me. The ones who drop the food and are never seen again? I feel no guilt leaving no tip.

 

[made in china]

People get what they vote for then are shocked when they have to pay for it.
Lot of people I work with have stuff delivered by Door Dash. The price of a "meal" from a place like McD's is shocking. The one lady who makes almost C note an hour said she can't understand it. She said I can sure as hell afford to do it. I just refuse to pay that kind of money for that kind of food. As price keeps going up though there will certainly be less people buying the stuff.

We used Uber Eats in 2019 when my wife went overseas to work for 6 months. It wasn't too bad in 2019. Fairly reasonable rates and no "pre-tipping" in the app. We'd buy enough food from somewhere nice like a Thai restaurant to have left overs for 2-3 days, and it worked out to be very reasonable overall cost per meal.

Wife went overseas again, we looked into UberEats recently and it was ridiculous. The rates went WAY up, and they now want pre-tip based on amount you purchased at the food place.

Why should my tip to a delivery driver be based on what's in the bag? If a 4# bag of food needs to be delivered 7 miles, what matter is it to the driver if that bag cost me $20 or $50? The tip thing in the app actually suggests 20%! So, you can't even do my old trick of spreading the cost out..... Oh, and the delivery drivers now know what kind of tip to expect before deciding to take an order! I used to tip cash to the driver's hand, taking in to consideration their friendliness, if the items were difficult to handle or they spilled a bit in their car (had that happen once, didn't blame the guy for it, tipped him up a bit more because that happened to me once in my car from that same food place)

 

[Alexx1401]

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Source: https://www.precedenceresearch.com/online-food-delivery-market

Still a lot of people who will pay for the convenience, at least so far. Will be interesting to see how far that goes price wise till people say no more.

 

[arakboss]

I have to "guess" this is like the people who will shop at a grocery store that is far more expensive than a different one blocks away? The people are used to shopping at the one? I have to guess McD's is like that. People going there because they "just always have"?? Suspect that at some point the price will finally get more to venture out and try others though. Last "meal" I bought at a McD was several years ago. Stopped at Wife's work and she asked me to get us lunch there. Even back then I thought surely they made a mistake when they told me the total. I took the food back and told Wife we could have had a meal in one of our favorite sit down places for just a few bucks more than the food in those bags. Food that was very sub par. She finally stopped eating there after that too. The one thing that may make them hold on longer is automation. The tech is about there now to make burger joints like that run with machines. People ordering at a touch screen and food made up by machines. They will only need a couple workers to do the work it used to take 10 or so to do. Every one of those workers they can eliminate saves a LOT of money in wages, insurance, and such.

In addition to the growth in laziness, transportation cost will continue to rise, public safety will likely continue to deteriorate. These factors will help drive up customer demand for take out food

 

[made in china]

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Source: https://www.precedenceresearch.com/online-food-delivery-market

Food places have begun experimenting with closing or reducing their dining areas. They can have a smaller building, smaller property/parking lot, fewer employees (no need to clean up after people or provide a public restroom) AND continue to jack up prices.
Many food places in our area had become so accustomed to having their dining areas closed during that last biological attack that some of them just recently reopened their dining areas.

In a few cases I had to ask or suggest to a manger to please reopen the dining area. When I am working I drive a 14,000 pound F-550 bucket truck that won't fit in a drive-thru, and sometimes I have to eat out for lunch, I'm pretty busy working 2 jobs.

 

[made in china]

Yep and the sad part is here its FAR more common now to have staff who act like they could care less. Since they don't need to hustle for tips.

That one really irks me, especially at a counter service food place. The moment they hand you the receipt to sign (and tip) or turn the iPad around to you for a tip, they suddenly perk-up and ask "so, how's your day going" in the most apathetic tone....obviously just doing it because the tip line is up.....hello, you don't ask "how's your day going?" at the end of an interaction with someone....so awkward and obviously fake.

 

[Mikej]

We had BK last night. I used a coupon and got three whoppers (no cheese, had to add that at home), three cheeseburgers and three Medium fries for $18.49. Seems high for fast food but since I voted for more inflation, that's what I get.

Haven't done BK for a long time. We'll NEVER step foot anywhere near that biz again! We watch TV, their food needs to be so expensive because of their ads they run every 10 GD minutes! On multiple channels! Some guy that sings horribly off key. What kind of business thinks they'll draw in more customers with horrible off-key singing of their stupid jingle?

What's CRAZY is that McD's is going to remove all of the self-serve soda machines, taking away the LAST bit of a deal they had. We've recently eaten at a McD's that charges for side sauces.
It seems these places have figured out Americans are addicted to their crap and they can raise prices and people will still buy.

McD's is the only fast food we at. Once a week, or every other week, on one of Wifey's days off when we're out and about. Lunch only. She uses the app and get's discounts. Orders just before we get there, her card is in the app, to get a code. We just get a couple Mc doubles or small chicken sandwich, and a large fry, maybe a dollar soda. That usually comes in at around 5/6 $s. Luckily, as we've aged we no longer have the big appetite. We never sit inside anymore. The rona shut down took care of that. We'll never pay them full price for a Big Mac again.
Both of them advertise like there ae still millions of people that never heard of them.

As far as going out to eat. We like a good dive bar. Prices have gone up, but not terribly where we go. The $14.00 "Ultimate" sandwich with side is up to $16.50. We only go there a couple times a month. Being the frugal guy I am, I have to grit my teeth to put out $50.00 something, plus tip, for a couple beers and sandwiches.

And I will never go anywhere that they charge a fee and call it a tip! Nor will I ever pay someone else to pick-up/deliver hot food to me. I don't understand why people would pay someone to go somewhere like McD's for them and deliver it 15 minutes later? Or anywhere else for that matter.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I don't understand why people would pay someone to go somewhere like McD's for them and deliver it 15 minutes later? Or anywhere else for that matter.

Well. My wife doesn't drive. She's also usually caring for the two kids when I'm working on things. So sometimes, it's more a matter of convenience, some people don't want to deal with the drama of toddlers and babies in the car waiting for food at the mobile pick up stations, or trying to wrangle them in a restaurant and getting a hyper autistic toddler to calm the f down and wait for food... lol. It's why other than the one McDs in town that still has a play place, we really don't go anywhere for dining out. It'll be either delivered, or I go and pick it up. I do want to take the wife out for a dinner, the two of us soon; so we'll be having our mothers and brother come over to watch the kids while we're on a date. There is this steakhouse/pub in Dallas that we still have a gift card for that hasn't expired; hopefully their prices haven't increased as much as McD's have.

We usually order from the Deals section of McD's menu.. like the Buy One get One for $1; and the rewards discounts program. But it's amazing that the Happy Meals are now just about $7 for a small burger, a kids fries, a pack of apple slice and a bottled water (seems they don't do small cups of water anymore)

 

[Mikej]

Well. My wife doesn't drive. She's also usually caring for the two kids when I'm working on things. So sometimes, it's more a matter of convenience, some people don't want to deal with the drama of toddlers and babies in the car waiting for food at the mobile pick up stations, or trying to wrangle them in a restaurant and getting a hyper autistic toddler to calm the f down and wait for food... lol. It's why other than the one McDs in town that still has a play place, we really don't go anywhere for dining out. It'll be either delivered, or I go and pick it up. I do want to take the wife out for a dinner, the two of us soon; so we'll be having our mothers and brother come over to watch the kids while we're on a date. There is this steakhouse/pub in Dallas that we still have a gift card for that hasn't expired; hopefully their prices haven't increased as much as McD's have.

We usually order from the Deals section of McD's menu.. like the Buy One get One for $1; and the rewards discounts program. But it's amazing that the Happy Meals are now just about $7 for a small burger, a kids fries, a pack of apple slice and a bottled water (seems they don't do small cups of water anymore)

Why not cook at home? Eating is still the cheapest form of entertainment and satisfaction there is. If it's it's done at home.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Why not cook at home? Eating is still the cheapest form of entertainment and satisfaction there is. If it's it's done at home.

We do, 5-6 days a week we eat all meals at home, no going out. Edit. Sorry, it does look like I made it sound like we're ordering takeout a lot more than we really do

 

[jayR]

1st let me state I'm not a Trump fan. However what he said during the run up to the 2020 was very prophetic . COVID, mail in ballots, illegal immigration off the charts and so on. Anyway this post of his seems to be of a similar vein.. I think this is a telegraph. Note the all caps too. We have been warned.