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There was talk from HTA that the bullpup that they are working on could accommodate a double stack mag. They said if there was enough demand, they would make their own double stack mags. I would guess that would be years away though...
 
There was talk from HTA that the bullpup that they are working on could accommodate a double stack mag. They said if there was enough demand, they would make their own double stack mags. I would guess that would be years away though...
The problem they would have now is the PCC market. A LOT of people got into making these now. Seems I am always seeing something new hit the market now. This market has really taken off. Unless they could keep the price way down I doubt they could sell enough to make it worth the R&D now. The idea does look damn nice though.
 
What? No red lion indexing hand guard? Tsk tsk. . .

Those are damn nice looking. (Red Lion) I was going to get one for at least one of my S2K's. Probably would have ended up with 2 if I had not tried the TNW PCC's. The Red Lion does make a damn nice way to put an optic on an S2K without losing the fold ability. There is a youtube of a guy who made a way to do it with a spring hinge. I tried it and I was able to make a prototype work. Just lost interest in making one that would be permanent. The biggest down side for me was no longer working in a machine shop. Miss the days of when I wanted to make something like that I could just use the shops stuff on my time. It was just too much work doing it without a mill. The idea does work very well very cheap though.
 
I really love what I've put together...but I think I may have let it get a bit out of hand. After all the receipts have been added up, this $500 carbine (KelTec Sub2000 Gen2 for Glock 22 in 40S&W) has become a build that cost over 2 G's. :eek::confused:o_O:(:) And I wouldn't have it any other way. It is exactly what I want, and that is the point of personalizing guns, right?

My use? This is for self defense when I need the ability to fold it up and stow it away. For example, during the eclipse, I chose to drive into the totality zone and nobody knew if it would become crazy town with traffic (it didn't). I just wanted to be ready. With a Glock 22 on my hip and this thing folded up behind the car seat, I felt pretty good.

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Above, you'll see a big part of the cost is the Octane 45 screwed to the muzzle.

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Above you can see the Magpul AFG2, a Crimson Trace Rail Master GREEN laser since my wife prefers lasers over sights or red dots since she is cross-eye dominant. Easy to turn on from the angled grip. You can also see the Trijicon RMR07 angled to the side so I can fold the rifle. It includes a Magpul rail piece, a Weaver 1 o'clock offset picatinny mount, a Yankee Hill 1/2" riser to give it that last bit of height for my preference, and a Trijicon low picatinny mount for the RDS.

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My desired VTAC Blue Force QD padded sling requires a mounting point fore and aft. I had to drill 3 holes in the stock to install this Magpul QD point and used an M-Lok QD mount for the front.

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One mag option I have is a 22rd Glock mag with a +3 from Taylor Freelance for 25 rounds. This photo of the Sub2000 folded up is this carbine's claim to fame. If I chose to remove the suppressor, it could be even shorter, but it takes a long time (if under attack) to screw on a can. I prefer to leave it on.

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From Tacticool I got this neoprene cover. The moment I decided to buy this was when I shot this PCC while 25 degrees out. Ahhh! Cold steel against naked cheek was no fun. But it requires you to use the longest stock setting to not have to cut the cover. Fine with me! Even though I'm only 5'10", the longest stock setting works for me. Thus, this carbine might feel too small for a tall guy unless you find some sort of shoulder pad that would work for you. Below, that's an MCarbo charging handle. Really works for me, better than the 1-finger stock unit.

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You can't quite see everything above, but I changed out the trigger (steel feels better for me), the springs (much smoother and lighter trigger), trigger guard (I would NOT do this again, in fact I may switch it back out), and some upgraded screws, all from MCarbo. They came out with a cool extended mag release button after I did this stuff. If I buy it, I may remove the trigger guard while installing the mag button. The stock trigger guard allows a one-handed take-down with your thumb, but this "upgraded" part is too smooth and requires 2 hands to actuate.

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To round out this self-defense lovable monstrosity, I've got a Streamlight flashlight, mounted to a Magpul M-Lok picatinny rail piece with a FAB defense 1" offset mount. This mount is quick release without a tool so I can take off the light to use it off the rifle, if necessary. This set up keeps the folded carbine as slim as possible with still having a light on one side and a red dot hanging off the other side.

I've done the math, which ends up around $2200, I think. Wow, this build added up. I may end up switching out the RMR for a Vortex, which could drop it below $2000, but I love it as it is. And one word about 40 over 9: The main detraction of 40 is that the recoil, greater than 9, makes follow-up shots a bit more difficult. But that is in a handgun. In a carbine, especially with the can attached, this caliber gets me a significant amount of power over a 9, but without much extra recoil. If this was a range toy or a competition rig (for USPSA PCC), I think 9mm would be better. But for self defense in a shoulder-fired carbine, I'm really liking 40!!

Okay, y'all, it's time....

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Hey, it's your gun and your money. If you like it that is all that really counts.
 
It would fit into a laptop bag with the can removed, and the flashlight removed (my light is quick-release). In this situation I feel it is important, if the plan was to be able to quickly thread it on, to a) not use a thread protector and b) treat the threads with some sort of anti-seize lubricant. The stuff I use is a Permatex product I got at O'Reilly auto parts, some liquid gold color you need to brush on.
 
It would fit into a laptop bag with the can removed, and the flashlight removed (my light is quick-release). In this situation I feel it is important, if the plan was to be able to quickly thread it on, to a) not use a thread protector and b) treat the threads with some sort of anti-seize lubricant. The stuff I use is a Permatex product I got at O'Reilly auto parts, some liquid gold color you need to brush on.

That is why mine still impress me as a "go to gun" for emergencies. They fit in a laptop bag with the damn laptop in there, or in a backpack. That and the way they are so fast to put into ready to fire. If they ever pass the HPA I will have to get a can for at least one of them no doubt.
 
While I think you're border line with $2k in a sub2k.. if they made them in 10mm auto, I'd probably do something questionable like this as well.

I do like those sub2ks.
:) As soon as I bought mine the first thing I thought is damn if they just made this in .45, then if they just made this in 10mm. Old guy who came up with these comes up with a lot of winning idea's. Then when the GenII came out I wanted them. Believe me if it was not such a PITA to sell one now I would sell my Gen1's and buy at least one GenII.
 
That is why mine still impress me as a "go to gun" for emergencies. They fit in a laptop bag with the damn laptop in there, or in a backpack. That and the way they are so fast to put into ready to fire. If they ever pass the HPA I will have to get a can for at least one of them no doubt.
Oh, please, I can fit an AR15 pistol in my laptop bag... then again, I have a DAMN big laptop and a laptop bag to suit. :D
 

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