No more Glocks?

[wired]

I'm just saying forcing CA market to be more flexible would open up millions, if not billion more $$$ in sales, not just to LE agencies. Besides, I've got a $5 here that says CA will still ban Glocks by name except to LE sales even after Glock redesigns things


Just thinking.. "less gun laws = more money from everyone else"

They dont care about the money. California has a list of things you must do for a manufacturer to sell there. Glock passes all the CA rules the state will allow sales there. Glock will be their crowning achievement. I'll take your $5.

 

[Kruel J]

Ruger died and released the company of his burden

Ruger makes good rifles and revolvers. Their SA pistils have been generic and forgettable even by them (MK series gets a pass). Maybe their Glock copy will breathe some life back into their SA division.

 

[1775usmc]

Stop thinking of gun companies as freedom advocates. They make guns, they sell guns. California has put Glock on notice that they will no longer accept guns for sale in the state of California that do not meet their standards so Glock can either change designs to meet those standards or stop selling in California entirely. So what do they do? They do a redesign and sell in California. People gripe about everything . They will grip about the new Glocks. They gripe about the old Glocks. Glocks a privately owned European company. Think "What would HK do" . That'll get you close.

Thank you.

It's funny that everyone thinks a foreign company should have American rights at the forefront of their "mission."

It's a company they make and sell guns for a profit world wide. That's the end of it. Making money. Not fighting legal battles and loosing it, just in "hopes" to making more of it.

Glock could pause all sales to American civilians and focus solely on contracts and they would still be successful.

I bet Glock doesn't really care that much about the constitution or the bill of rights in America as long as they are making money being a foreign company.

 

[Kruel J]

Thank you.

It's funny that everyone thinks a foreign company should have American rights at the forefront of their "mission."

It's a company they make and sell guns for a profit world wide. That's the end of it. Making money. Not fighting legal battles and loosing it, just in "hopes" to making more of it.

Glock could pause all sales to American civilians and focus solely on contracts and they would still be successful.

I bet Glock doesn't really care that much about the constitution or the bill of rights in America as long as they are making money being a foreign company.

I don't think any of them GAF about anything but money.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I'll take your $5.

So, you're saying CA will allow Glock to get their V model line onto the Handgun Roster to sell to civilians? Because I do not believe they will. Gen 4, and Gen 5 Glocks are not legal to sell in CA to civilians by FFLs.

 

[wired]

So, you're saying CA will allow Glock to get their V model line onto the Handgun Roster to sell to civilians? Because I do not believe they will. Gen 4, and Gen 5 Glocks are not legal to sell in CA to civilians by FFLs.

Yes. California will design their V guns to pass California regs and the state will put them on the roster. The whole point of this is to get on the California roster.

 

[Meridian7750]

I always hated the metric system....

I hate it, times 10

 

[CamoDeafie]

Yes. California will design their V guns to pass California regs and the state will put them on the roster. The whole point of this is to get on the California roster.

My opinion, V series is just so Glock doesn't get sued for switch compatibility. Not for selling to CA civilians

 

[wired]

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My opinion, V series is just so Glock doesn't get sued for switch compatibility. Not for selling to CA civilians

Glock didn't make the switches. Thats an aftermarket thing that happened after they started selling the pistols. Not Glocks fault. There is no suing Glock for that. They can shut Glock out of the market , which they have been doing, but thats about it. Glock can redesign if they want to sell in California. Other companies come out with new models all the time. Completely different designs and no one has a cow about it. Glocks been doing the same trick for so long everyone expects it will go on forever.

 

[RVTECH]

Because I do not believe they will.

This is kind of what I am thinking as well.

CA does NOT shiv a git once they pass a law (especially gun related) so why would they waste any time or effort to put a gun ON the roster.

It seems most of their effort is in getting (and keeping) guns OFF the roster.

 

[wired]

This is kind of what I am thinking as well.

CA does NOT shiv a git once they pass a law (especially gun related) so why would they waste any time or effort to put a gun ON the roster.

It seems most of their effort is in getting (and keeping) guns OFF the roster.

Guns stay off roster because they are non compliant and the manufacturer doesn't change specs and apply to go on the roster. I have a friend who has submitted and had several guns added to the roster. Its not that hard.

 

[Kruel J]

Glock didn't make the switches. Thats an aftermarket thing that happened after they started selling the pistols. Not Glocks fault. There is no suing Glock for that. They can shut Glock out of the market , which they have been doing, but thats about it. Glock can redesign if they want to sell in California. Other companies come out with new models all the time. Completely different designs and no one has a cow about it. Glocks been doing the same trick for so long everyone expects it will go on forever.

'I feel terrified': Inventor of 'Glock switch' technology says he regrets creation

When Jorge Leon invented a device that turns Glock pistols into fully automatic weapons, he thought it would be used for the good.

abcnews.go.com

 

[wired]

'I feel terrified': Inventor of 'Glock switch' technology says he regrets creation

When Jorge Leon invented a device that turns Glock pistols into fully automatic weapons, he thought it would be used for the good.

abcnews.go.com

Exactly. Not a Glock creation.

 

[RVTECH]

Guns stay off roster because they are non compliant and the manufacturer doesn't change specs and apply to go on the roster. I have a friend who has submitted and had several guns added to the roster. Its not that hard.

Got it! I admit I do NOT understand the CA gun roster in it's entirety.

 

[64MercurysRule]

The roster obviously is just another form of gun control ........ but then again it's ............. CALIFORNICA .

 

[Kruel J]

Exactly. Not a Glock creation.

Like people trying to sue auto manufacturers for DUI deaths. Doesn't make sense. And if it continues, companies will be hesitant to release anything.

Personal responsibility went out the window years ago. And in a sue-happy country like ours there will always be people or special interest groups looking to get paid.

 

[Duneblaster]

 

[1775usmc]

So, you're saying CA will allow Glock to get their V model line onto the Handgun Roster to sell to civilians? Because I do not believe they will. Gen 4, and Gen 5 Glocks are not legal to sell in CA to civilians by FFLs.

Same reason the P320 was just qualified in 2023 as a Cali variant to be put on the roster (even though it was released way earlier and had been in the market for years). It has nothing to with the brand. It has everything to do with the requirements to make the list.

 

[cavalrick]

I bet they'll come out with a model that doesn't take the switch. I have a feeling that's what this is all about.

Dumb. But I understand.

This is likely it. Just hoping the new model's design doesn't impact the simple reliability we have become accustomed to from the brand.

 

[monks]

Glock didn't make the switches. Thats an aftermarket thing that happened after they started selling the pistols. Not Glocks fault. There is no suing Glock for that.

Well it appears they are in fact suing Glock. Whether they win or not is up to what the judges rule and how far left they are but it's costing Glock a lot of $$ either way.