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Muzzle Flip on a .45acp compact.

Discussion in 'Semi-Automatic Pistols' started by MrMillspecer, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. MrMillspecer

    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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    Just wanted to show a quick video of shooting the xd. Mod2 .45 acp. I hear a lot about muzzle flip in compacts especially in .45s or high bore pistols. The pistol has been very reliable and more accurate than I would expect from a 3.3" barrel. Has high vis sights ,all steel guide rod and easy to field strip. With a 10 round capacity w the short mag and 14 with the full size magazine and grip extension in an easy, for me ,to carry package. I don't feel I'm lacking firepower as much as practice. Please excuse the poor shooting. Many cups of coffee and feeling puny. Was really just trying a new grip extension. Not that it really needs it. And a first video post. So does the muzzle flip and recoil seem excessive ?



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  2. MrMillspecer

    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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    OK how about one handed then. Missed once in the left ear. Was going for headshots twice. Big pattern compared to two handed.

     
  3. MrMillspecer

    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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    Here's trying for headshots. Slowing down. The low shot and ear shot were there already.

     
  4. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I have had a few short barreled relatively powerful handguns.

    They do tend to exhibit muzzle blast and muzzle rise.

    What I tried, on a larger gun (Glock 21), was a "hybrid comp porting" and it worked IMO and that of others who tried it. For a while I had two identical G21 pistols, one with the porting and one without. I let a number of people try them with the same ammo at the same time, even went so far as to have them shoot with their eyes closed (downrange).

    They could tell the difference.

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  5. MrMillspecer

    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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    I have owned 3 full size Government 1911s ,down to two, with steel frames and really don't think the recoil or muzzle rise is that much less than with this subcompact. It's a pleasant shooting pistol too me.
     
  6. Howard1955

    Howard1955 Dallas, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Looks fine to me. I have a 3.8" XDM 45. Good Guns.
     
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  7. fxdc

    fxdc Da Valley USPSA, SPEED STEEL, IDPA, 3 GUN

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    I remember shooting the original prototypes on model 66 357 back in 89/90.

    Will the shoe man.... LOL
    Mike Martolin. ... master class uspsa and Gun Smith
    Kevin Mcintyre. ... KKM precision RIP

    We're all my old shooting buddies in Reno/Carson City , that system WORKS!
    And is the LOUDEST compensator ever made!
     
  8. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yes - forgot to mention - it does make the gun louder.

    First time I shot it, was back when I had just bought it and it is a first gen Glock - so before the 10mm - and people came over at the range and asked what it was that I was shooting.

    There is also some flame out the ports, but I didn't notice it, not even at night - at least no more than the flash from the muzzle and at least not when I was concentrating on the target. If you are holding the gun out and looking at the gun looking for the flash, you will notice it, or if someone else is shooting it and you are looking at it from the side.

    In general you want to use low flash powder ammo for self-defense anyway.

    Also, you never want to put your hand above those ports. But I cannot think of very many scenarios where that is going to happen.
     
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    fxdc Da Valley USPSA, SPEED STEEL, IDPA, 3 GUN

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    We held a sheet of paper over the top of it and shot. .... very cool paper shredder.
    LOL
     
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  10. Alexx1401

    Alexx1401 Pierce County WA Well-Known Member

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    Excessive? To me no. Damn nice looking pistol. I tend to have a lot of bias though with anything in .45.:D
    To me it may make a slight difference in time to get a second shot in. I just tell people when the first one is a .45 the second one can take a split second longer. Since the first one was a .45 after all. :cool:
     
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  11. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    very first video the first thing i noticed was your grip. i may be wrong because its hard to tell but, it seems like you are cupping your right hand instead of having proper grip. you should have equal pressure left to right, right to left forward to back and back to front. from what i noticed it seems like you would be unable to accomplish that with how you are gripping your gun.

    also your thumbs are down. i like to see thumbs forward. right thumb ontop of left pointed forward under the slide.
     
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  12. MrMillspecer

    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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    With my thumbs forward the left ends up in the trigger guard. Not sure what you mean about cupping the grip. But most the grip is w the right. The lefts along for the ride. The left is still sore from recent carpal tunnel surgery. The shooting is like hand therapy. Apriciate the info.
     
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  13. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    the (offhand)left hand IMOis very important for recoil/muzzle flip/follow up shots. instead of it just being there "for the ride" i prefer it to be putting equal pressure left to right and front to back with your shooting hand.i like to have both of my thumbs (right ontop of left) pointed down range at the target.


    BTW: speedy recovery on the hand. i sense carpal tunnel surgery in my near future:(
     
  14. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Hairy palms and blindness will come next... so knock that stuff off already!





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  15. DB Wesner

    DB Wesner Tacoma You need more cowbell. Silver Supporter

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    It looked comparable to how mine shoots. I actually feel that my XDs 3.3 .45 is very controllable, one of my favorite carry guns.
     
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  16. Pops1911

    Pops1911 Cinebar/Issaquah Well-Known Member

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    Being a life long aficionado of the 45 acp everything you recorded looks to be within the normal boundaries of the round. Nice shooting btw. Those l'il 45s do buck a little and it takes a short time to get back on target in my experience. The bad news? Now I will be researching your firearm for a future purchase. Aarrgghh! So many pistols so little money. Pops
     
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  17. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Have to agree with the XDs being very controllable for being a .45... Think Springfield has nailed these very compact pistols in regards to recoil control, accuracy and some great sights out of the box.

    As for the XD Mod. 2 and muzzle flip, looks to be controllable, certainly not excessive... Now you've got me thinking about a Mod. 2....
     
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  18. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    It is what it is and no amount of fish-eye analysis will tell if it flips too much for you.
     
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  19. MrMillspecer

    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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    It's more or less to dispell the mith of a short barreled .45 being difficult to handle. At least in this model. May get someone to try one that thouht recoil or muzzle rise is excessive in a subcompact pistol. I would call it a compact myself.
     
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    MrMillspecer Scappoose Well-Known Member

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