Multi-State Concealed Weapons Permit.

[mdcyntst]

I'm curious if anyone knows or heard of any problems with non-resident AZ or UT permits while traveling.

In particular AZ states common and expected language:

Warning: It is extremely important that all Arizona Permit holders be aware of the CCW requirements and laws of all reciprocating/recognizing states. An Arizona CCW permit does not supersede any other state's law or CCW requirements. Persons carrying an Arizona permit are subject to the laws of the state they are visiting.

If you are an Arizona permit holder traveling to another state and wish to carry a concealed weapon using your Arizona permit, contact that state directly to confirm their recognition status before carrying concealed weapons there.

Some states only recognize permits from persons who are a resident of the issuing state.
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I have two concerns.

1). The un-informed officer who sees my WA residence and an AZ permit in a reciprocating state (ie Kansas) and thinks I'm not legal. OK, not much you can do to prevent this, but it can be ultimately defended.

2). More challenging, you must abide by local laws AND as the last line says "Some states only recognize permits from persons who are a resident of the issuing state."

Is there a scenario where reciprocity exists between two states (or uni-directional), but only for residents of the issuing states? The AZ permit (and UT) have reciprocity in approximately 39 states, but are there local laws that restrict the reciprocity for non AZ or UT residents?

Some states offer non-resident permits (FL, OR), but there is a lot of interest in the AZ and UT multi-state permit. I'm curious if anyone has knowledge or experience with someone who thought they were legal, but ultimately were not because of the resident issue stated above.

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[BroncoFan]

NRA, USCCA and Utah Certified Instructor here.
Carry restrictions vary state to state.
Formal Reciprocity and recognition are not the same thing. The best thing to do is go to the respective state's website to see what the requirements are.
A couple excellent resources are:
Concealed Carry/CCW State Reciprocity Map | USCCA
Handgunlaw.us

 

[MountainBear]

Know the laws. Keep a lawyers number (or USCCA/similar) handy. And the most important thing to remember. There are times to argue that you are right. When a police officer is giving you orders, particularly at gunpoint isn't one of them. Better to live to argue you were correct.

 

[Lilhigbee]

I've found this book to be a wealth of information. Updated yearly with what's legal and what isn't for every state and DC.
https://www.gunlawguide.com
And yes some states recognize states that do not offer reciprocity. For instance some states recognize all permits, which would include Washington, but Washington only recognizes states that have equal or more stringent requirements to get a permit.
Read the book; it's worth it!!

 

[Wayne]

but Washington only recognizes states that have equal or more stringent requirements to get a permit.

Then that would be every state considering Wa has no requirements. That is why very few states recognize Wa CPL

 

[Diamondback]

There are a number of states that only honor Resident permits.

 

[Lilhigbee]

Then that would be every state considering Wa has no requirements. That is why very few states recognize Wa CPL

No.
Try to get a WA permit when you are eighteen.

 

[Wayne]

No.
Try to get a WA permit when you are eighteen.

How many states allow under 21 to get a permit, for handgun ?

 

[Lilhigbee]

North and South Dakota, Montana, Maine, possibly others that I couldn't find specified.
Also must require fingerprints and background check and recognize WA permit.

 

[BroncoFan]

How many states allow under 21 to get a permit, for handgun ?

Utah allows a provisional permit <21

 

[P7M13]

Bottom line: you MUST know for yourself. Concealed rules change state to state, and even within communities. Best not to get caught with your drawers down. Dat chit be 'spensive!

North and South Dakota, Montana, Maine, possibly others that I couldn't find specified.
Also must require fingerprints and background check and recognize WA permit.

Idaho offers their standard permit to those under the age of 21, subject to sheriff approval.
As of June 2016, Idaho allows constitutional carry for RESIDENTS of age, in good standing (no ex cons, whack-jobs, etc).

NRA, USCCA and Utah Certified Instructor here.
Carry restrictions vary state to state.
Formal Reciprocity and recognition are not the same thing. The best thing to do is go to the respective state's website to see what the requirements are.
A couple excellent resources are:
Concealed Carry/CCW State Reciprocity Map | USCCA
Handgunlaw.us

Beware - the USCCA map cited is inaccurate. Most graphical ones are. Since you don't specify home state and concealed permit class level (e.g. Idaho Enhanced vs Standard), the reciprocity calculation displays as if ALL states are your residence. For example, being an Oregon resident, there is no way on God's green earth that I can get a permit for SC unless I own land in SC and have an non-resident permit. USCCA says I can.

USA Carry map also has inaccuracy when you have more than two permits. For example, I have Oregon resident and UT non-resident. It displays reciprocity correctly (as I interpret the State AG web sites). If I add PA non-resident or Idaho Enhanced non-resident, it breaks (or says I cannot carry) in a few states I can carry in.

In the Handgunlaw link that @BroncoFan provided, on the left, click on the link to States that Honor my Permit. It will pull up a PDF that lists permit recognition, state by state. This one is extremely useful. When I want more specific details, I go to the state AG website and read their rules on CC and reciprocity.

 

[BroncoFan]

Bottom line: you MUST know for yourself. Concealed rules change state to state, and even within communities. Best not to get caught with your drawers down. Dat chit be 'spensive!


Idaho offers their standard permit to those under the age of 21, subject to sheriff approval.
As of June 2016, Idaho allows constitutional carry for RESIDENTS of age, in good standing (no ex cons, whack-jobs, etc).



Beware - the USCCA map cited is inaccurate. Most graphical ones are. Since you don't specify home state and concealed permit class level (e.g. Idaho Enhanced vs Standard), the reciprocity calculation displays as if ALL states are your residence. For example, being an Oregon resident, there is no way on God's green earth that I can get a permit for SC unless I own land in SC and have an non-resident permit. USCCA says I can.

USA Carry map also has inaccuracy when you have more than two permits. For example, I have Oregon resident and UT non-resident. It displays reciprocity correctly (as I interpret the State AG web sites). If I add PA non-resident or Idaho Enhanced non-resident, it breaks (or says I cannot carry) in a few states I can carry in.

In the Handgunlaw link that @BroncoFan provided, on the left, click on the link to States that Honor my Permit. It will pull up a PDF that lists permit recognition, state by state. This one is extremely useful. When I want more specific details, I go to the state AG website and read their rules on CC and reciprocity.

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Actually the USCCA map,does ask your state of residence to fill out the map.

 

[P7M13]

Actually the USCCA map,does ask your state of residence to fill out the map.

Thanks, you're right. The results produced are still inaccurate, or at least inconsistent with other maps.
It does not reflect recent updates in Nevada's recognition of Oregon.
They don't differentiate between Idaho Standard / Enhanced or South Dakota regular/gold/enhanced permits.
Once you indicate your state residence, it does not flag states which will not grant licenses to non-residents.