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More on ammo shortage

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by RonS, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. RonS

    RonS portland, or Member

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  2. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    We must be careful and perform due dilligence so we can arm ourselves with facts, and not kneejerk reactions to opinion articles like this one.

    RonS, don't take this as a personal attack against you. All of us get PO'd when we read stuff like this. Problem is, this issue has made the rounds already. It's not a "non-story", but it is something that has been in the works for many years. Lead mining and smelting is pretty nasty to the environment and to those doing the work. China has little regard for their environment or workers so it's much cheaper to have them take on the risk and provide a finished product to us.

    Not that there isn't plenty to blame on the current occupant of the white house, but this isn't one of them.
     
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    gonefishinagain Vancouver, WA Member

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  4. DireWolf

    DireWolf Oregon Active Member

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    Some of you are lead by the nose of your political idols without a hint of critical thought or independent investigation.
     
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    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    In all honesty we are in big trouble those who are awake realize what is happening to our rights and freedoms. We post to prepare for SHTF but why don't we realize that we are in SHTF. Rotten Government and an ignorant populace who keep on reelecting the same ole politicians for life.
     
  6. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe the 2nd Amendment says anything about ammunition/ powder etc.. If a backdoor exists, this is it. Limits on storage, limits on sales/ transfers. Ammunition permits? Safety tax? All speculation now but you can bet the usual suspects are scheming about ammunition. On a local level especially!
     
  7. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    I wish I had a political idol. As usual I try and support the least bad small govt. type. I've never been truly enthusiastic over a politician. Never understood those that do. Walking around with the President on your T-shirt or a big poster? That's idol worship imho. Holding my nose and usually voting Republican is as good as it gets for the likes of me. I've come to this conclusion through a lot of critical thought and independent investigation btw.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    If you can do nothing but gripe, just go away. No one tied you up and forced you to read anything.
    Making derogatory remarks all over does you no good.
     
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    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Critical thought and independent investigation are a thing of the past. Just watch CNN for an hour.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Communist news network .....
    All the mainstream news is like that anymore
     
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    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    No doubt about it Taku....Regarding the OP, I actually want people to get angry, even if a few of the facts are wrong. The majority of the real facts have been glossed over buy this puppet regime and administration. Its time for action, not apathy!
     
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    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't say anything about guns either BUT it does speak of ARMS. Ammunition and the components which make the ammunition are part of arms. Without ammunition for firearms, they are just pieces of iron and wood, not ARMS.
     
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    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps your right. It's a sure bet the gun grabbers who have political power don't see it your way though.
     
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    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    You don't contribute to panic, so go away :D
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    They are using as many environmental laws as they can to attack the ammo now.
    Typical leftist underhanded tactics. None of them have any morals or ethics.
    Or even a fragment of common sense.
     
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    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    When you do research on this particular topic, you'll find that it was the Bush administration that enacted those particular laws. There are plenty of things to blame on this administration, but this isn't one of them. And I seriously doubt that the environmental issues were undertaken for the sole purpose of eliminating lead mining and smelting.

    We've undertaken many steps to minimize pollutants. Look at the steel industry. At one time, Pittsburg looked like a scene out of a science fiction movie with the skies black from smoke and the Monongahela river on fire. I'm not saying that some environmental legislation isn't aimed at shutting down some industries, but I can't really think that this legislation was put in place for the sole purpose of eliminating ammunition production in this country.
     
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    Kurly Puget Sound Member

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    Can you post the information you speak of please.
     
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    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    I don't have the time to look at the previous threads on this forum, but I'll go back and find them when I get home tonight. There are also threads on other firearms forums as well with the same content.
     
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    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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