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Chalk up another one for the 8mm Mauser! Vastly under-rated and under-loaded in the USA.. European 7.92 Mauser will rip ya a new one.. (Sellier & Belliot)- whereas USA-made 8mm is downloaded to @.30-30 specs... Everywhere but the US 7,92 Mauser is considered on a par with .30-06...When my dad was growing up in Alaska in the late 50s and early 60s, he hunted moose with a 30-30....then the firing pin froze when he was facing a bull and he had to run for his life until his brother could shoot it with a custom 8x57 mauser.