Looking for advice/help with AK Suppressor options, etc.

[thinsley]

Okay, guys, here's the deal. Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer solid advice. Two of my AKs are from Palmetto State Armory: an AK103 and an AKP. Both are chambered in 7.62x39 and have an M24x1.5 thread pitch.

If you know anything about these, that thread pitch isn't the most common. I want to be able to use one suppressor for both firearms. This means the suppressor will need at least some sort of QD or muzzle device to which it can attach. This rules out a direct thread option.

I have several cans; my first cans were all direct thread, and for a couple of firearms, that's okay. My latest is a Griffin Armament M4SDK. This suppressor is for .556, and the beauty of it is that it can attach to any A2 flash hider. This means I can swap it out between rifles without purchasing a new muzzle device for each.

I bring THAT up because they also make a .30 cal version, and Ideally, I'd love to use that can on both of these firearms. I have been unable to find an A2 flash hider that mounts to that thread pitch.

So, to suppress these two, I have a few options.

1. Find a thread adapter that goes from M24x1.5 to a more common pitch like 5/8/24 and then add an A2 at the end of that, and then add the can (the one advantage to this option is that I could also use it on my AR10)

2. Go with a Dead Air Wolverine and replace the muzzle device on the end of both rifles with the jmac device, and then the thread adapter, and then the can.

3. ????? Anyone know of an A2 with that thread pitch? Does anyone have advice based on experience? Please understand that I've been googling my brains out, and so I may have missed something.

Thanks in advance for your help!

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[TTSX]

I strongly doubt they're M24x1.5 L, more like M14x1.5 L. If they were M24, they'd effectively be 15/16 thread which is larger than any rifle I've ever heard of uses. I mean, seriously, you'd need a 1" thick barrel to make that work. The dead air wolverine comes standard with the M14x1L insert

 

[thinsley]

Specs on the website for both rifles says

Muzzle Thread: M24x1 1/2 RH

 

[TTSX]

Huh. That's what it says, alright. Looks to me like you're hosed without a chain of adapters because an A2 is skinnier than the threads you're asking for. By a lot.

 

[thinsley]

JMAC Makes a muzzle device that'll work with the Dead Air wolverine and there are plenty of AK A2 Flash Hiders out there, just none with that thread pitch that I can find. Plenty of people has suppressed these AK's I just need to be able to pick the brain of one of them!

 

[Camelfilter]

Haven't finished up my SBR yet (Zastava M92), but already have the stamp.

My plan is a thread adapter to 5/8x24 (already have).

Then a Yankee hill machine SRX taper threaded brake (all ready have).

Then use our Hybrid 46 suppressor (already have). It is hub compatible & I have the mating side for the Yankee Hill Machine SRX taper brakes on it already - use it on other guns which I allready installed the brakes to.

Will rock set the brake onto the adapter. The adapter also has notches for the spring/detent for the M92. Dunno if your AK's have a spring/detent, or not. None of our other AK's do IIRC.

-Anyways that's my plan ATM…

Edit, adding: if I didn't have the spring detent, I'd just rock set on the adapter. With the brake also rock set on as well…

 

[Gbirk]

HuxWrx has muzzle devices for that thread pitch, and I love my two 30cal Hux cans on my AKs. No tuning and sound is pretty good.

FLASH HIDER-QD 762 M24X1.5 RH

The Flash Hider-QD AK is designed to mitigate flash with unsuppressed. Flash Hider-QD AK is compatible with HX-QD 762, 762 Ti and Magnum Ti suppressors. Muzzle device length is 2.3 and length added to barrel is 1.7 inches. NOTE: Larger caliber mounts are NOT compatible with smaller caliber...

huxwrx.com

I believe these index off the muzzle not the shoulder so on both of my AKs (a Vepr and an M92pap they were concentric without any fuss). I did have a slight tinge of fear when torquing the muzzle device down on the barrel crown though.....

The Flow 762Ti can is also nice and short as well as light, so on front heavy AKs is is a great option.

I suppose it is not "clone correct", but it works well.

 

[Knobgoblin]

JMAC Makes a muzzle device that'll work with the Dead Air wolverine and there are plenty of AK A2 Flash Hiders out there, just none with that thread pitch that I can find. Plenty of people has suppressed these AK's I just need to be able to pick the brain of one of them!

The JMac stuff is probably going to be your best bet.
Have you called and explained what you're trying to do?
They might have a fix that works.

 

[thinsley]

The JMac stuff is probably going to be your best bet.
Have you called and explained what you're trying to do?
They might have a fix that works.

I did send them a message and they did get back to me just recently. They mentioned one of their muzzle devices and then the adapter made for the Wolverine. So in effect, just swap out the muzzle device and I'll be good to go with that can.

 

[bad pony]

Rearden makes a brake and flash hider threaded in 24x1.5. I run their flash hider, Cyka, on my AK102. I use a YHM Turbo K for a 5.56 can, so I have their ATLAS mount on that can and run their R2C flash hiders on my AR uppers so I can use my can across them.

For your situation, the Wolverine isn't a bad can but it also isn't the greatest can. You could run the Wolverine with Dead Air's 24x1.5 insert and swap between the 2. Another way to go would be JMac's x37 series that has HUB mount threads on the muzzle device and allows for any can with HUB threads to be direct threaded to them. I've seen people go this route with a variety of cans, lately the most being Resiliant's new Putnik can.

 

[KrisWearsKhaki]

Bruddah, I live in Keizer and work in Wilsonville. I have a 24x1.5 threaded can for my PSA ak103 (I can also switch to 5/8x24 and 14x1LH) . If you want to come on down to Salem and chat about your options, this is your invite.

I have a dead air Wolverine that you can check out and interface on your Ak.

And if so inclined, we can run to the range together for you to shoot it.

That said if you have property to shoot on as well in Canby, I can come over and let you try it out!

PM me if you wanna get together for this!!!

 

[ilikegunspdx]

@Bolt_308 would know probably. He knows a lot about this stuff.

 

[Bolt_308]

Bruddah, I live in Keizer and work in Wilsonville. I have a 24x1.5 threaded can for my PSA ak103 (I can also switch to 5/8x24 and 14x1LH) . If you want to come on down to Salem and chat about your options, this is your invite.

I have a dead air Wolverine that you can check out and interface on your Ak.

And if so inclined, we can run to the range together for you to shoot it.

That said if you have property to shoot on as well in Canby, I can come over and let you try it out!

PM me if you wanna get together for this!!!

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Boy that dong on that middle rifle is pretty sweet. ;-) I should have carved my initials into it before you bought it . . . ;-)

 

[Lazyfaire]

HuxWrx has muzzle devices for that thread pitch, and I love my two 30cal Hux cans on my AKs. No tuning and sound is pretty good.

FLASH HIDER-QD 762 M24X1.5 RH

The Flash Hider-QD AK is designed to mitigate flash with unsuppressed. Flash Hider-QD AK is compatible with HX-QD 762, 762 Ti and Magnum Ti suppressors. Muzzle device length is 2.3 and length added to barrel is 1.7 inches. NOTE: Larger caliber mounts are NOT compatible with smaller caliber...

huxwrx.com

I believe these index off the muzzle not the shoulder so on both of my AKs (a Vepr and an M92pap they were concentric without any fuss). I did have a slight tinge of fear when torquing the muzzle device down on the barrel crown though.....

The Flow 762Ti can is also nice and short as well as light, so on front heavy AKs is is a great option.

I suppose it is not "clone correct", but it works well.

View attachment 2007060

I bought a CMMG Dissent in 762 x 39 and have ordered a 762 Ti Flow (waiting waiting waiting!) and a FH with outside threading for the quick mount. So 2 FH - 1 can

 

[Bolt_308]

@Bolt_308 would know probably. He knows a lot about this stuff.

Ha- it is true! I have tried about every solution out there. I agree with the earlier post- IMO the best solution for the weird various threadings on AKs is to go JMAC X37 360 muzzle devices. They do look a little odd without a can on it, but if you have a can, you will always shoot with a can, so I never shoot unsuppressed. As mentioned the JMAC X37 they have various threadings, so you can easily 'convert' any AK to industry standard HUB/Bravo threadings. Then any HUB compatible caliber compatible can will be able to be used.

ONE HUGE CAVEAT - MAKE SURE YOU CHECK FOR CONCENTRICITY! AKs are notorious for not have lined up barrel threading, as most of them, it is actually the gas block that is threaded, not the actual barrel. Cans like the Wolverine are great because the baffles are specifically designed to get bigger towards the end of the can. Yes that makes for less suppression, but makes up for it in being able to be shot on AKs that might not be perfectly lined up, to avoid a baffle strike. Alignment rods are a little expensive, but VERY worth it to not shoot out your expensive can.

So for the vast majority of my AKs, I shoot with a Wolverine, with the HUB adapter, to the JMAC X37 muzzle devices. which makes it shorter and lighter, which is also nice. Also nice because you can quickly switch between rifles. Yes I technically could mount one of my 'regular' cans on it that are hub compatible, but some of them the alignment is VERY close to being a baffle strike. So not worth it. Plus the Wolverine looks SWEET! Next month I will be picking up a Putnik, both for the vibes but also because it is similarly set up.

I have one AK that I run a 'regular' can on- but that is because it is a Meridian Defense Pestilence, which has a 14" barrel with a pinned/welded ASR muzzle device, which was checked to assure it was perfectly in line before the pin/weld. So that one, I trust my Hybrid 46m on it, as we tested it with alignment rods. However most AKs, you arent going to want to permanently mount a muzzle device. Sorry that was a lot, LMK if you have any questions!

PS heres a few photos of some of my AKs with Cans, to show you what is possible:

IMG_6978.jpeg

• Bolt_308
• May 8, 2024

IMG_6999.jpeg

• Bolt_308
• Apr 22, 2024

IMG_6956.jpeg

• Bolt_308
• Apr 5, 2024

 

[Bolt_308]

Hey Bonus @thinsley - looks like Jmac has all their X37 360 muzzle devices on sale right now! https://www.jmac-customs.com/shop-by-product-type/muzzle-devices/x-series/360-x-series-1/

 

[thinsley]

Ha- it is true! I have tried about every solution out there. I agree with the earlier post- IMO the best solution for the weird various threadings on AKs is to go JMAC X37 360 muzzle devices. They do look a little odd without a can on it, but if you have a can, you will always shoot with a can, so I never shoot unsuppressed. As mentioned the JMAC X37 they have various threadings, so you can easily 'convert' any AK to industry standard HUB/Bravo threadings. Then any HUB compatible caliber compatible can will be able to be used.

ONE HUGE CAVEAT - MAKE SURE YOU CHECK FOR CONCENTRICITY! AKs are notorious for not have lined up barrel threading, as most of them, it is actually the gas block that is threaded, not the actual barrel. Cans like the Wolverine are great because the baffles are specifically designed to get bigger towards the end of the can. Yes that makes for less suppression, but makes up for it in being able to be shot on AKs that might not be perfectly lined up, to avoid a baffle strike. Alignment rods are a little expensive, but VERY worth it to not shoot out your expensive can.

So for the vast majority of my AKs, I shoot with a Wolverine, with the HUB adapter, to the JMAC X37 muzzle devices. which makes it shorter and lighter, which is also nice. Also nice because you can quickly switch between rifles. Yes I technically could mount one of my 'regular' cans on it that are hub compatible, but some of them the alignment is VERY close to being a baffle strike. So not worth it. Plus the Wolverine looks SWEET! Next month I will be picking up a Putnik, both for the vibes but also because it is similarly set up.

I have one AK that I run a 'regular' can on- but that is because it is a Meridian Defense Pestilence, which has a 14" barrel with a pinned/welded ASR muzzle device, which was checked to assure it was perfectly in line before the pin/weld. So that one, I trust my Hybrid 46m on it, as we tested it with alignment rods. However most AKs, you arent going to want to permanently mount a muzzle device. Sorry that was a lot, LMK if you have any questions!

PS heres a few photos of some of my AKs with Cans, to show you what is possible:

IMG_6978.jpeg

• Bolt_308
• May 8, 2024

IMG_6999.jpeg

• Bolt_308
• Apr 22, 2024

IMG_6956.jpeg

• Bolt_308
• Apr 5, 2024

Damn those are beautiful. Thanks for sharing. The JMAC seems to be the least intrusive at least. And that Wolverine looks sweet.

 

[thinsley]

Hey Bonus @thinsley - looks like Jmac has all their X37 360 muzzle devices on sale right now! https://www.jmac-customs.com/shop-by-product-type/muzzle-devices/x-series/360-x-series-1/

So the https://www.jmac-customs.com/360-24-1-5-facemount-x20-wolfman/ will work with the two AK's that I have, they both have M24x1.5RH threads, is this correct? Just want to double make sure before I buy them both.

 

[thinsley]

PS. AND this muzzle device will work with the Wolverine? IF I buy the adapter thing correct? Sorry guys for the repeated dumb questions. Just want to be sure.

 

[Gbirk]

I bought a CMMG Dissent in 762 x 39 and have ordered a 762 Ti Flow (waiting waiting waiting!) and a FH with outside threading for the quick mount. So 2 FH - 1 can

I have wanted one of their MK47 Mutant "pistols" for a couple years now, but the price of 7.62 has kept me from grabbing one and the price increase for the new model. I have about 10k rounds stored up which used to sound like a huge number, but not so much any more....