National Leaked ATF doc on Biden plan for ghost guns

[ATCclears]

Leaked ATF Document Details Biden Plan to Ban ‘Ghost Guns’

An internal Department of Justice document explaining how the Biden Administration plans to restrict so-called ghost guns was leaked on Tuesday.

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https://thereload.com/app/uploads/2021/04/Definition-of-Frame-or-Receiver.NPRM_.Clean-Draft-OGC-HQS.pdf

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[Member 34319]

107 pages of legal jargon.

Any translations available?

 

[titsonritz]

Any translations available?

We want your guns and don't care what you think or have to say about it.

 

[Member 34319]

We want your guns and don't care what you think or have to say about it.

I knew that part.

 

[Hueco]

107 pages of legal jargon.

Any translations available?

I skimmed through it. Starts off saying the obvious: "we're going to provide more clear definitions for (insert the usual here [firearm, receiver, readily available, etc.])."

And, as you would expect, those terms were not better defined anywhere in the document.

 

[Fishjager]

Final definition: you will penetrated in any oarfice available by any government agency for having any of the above mentioned items. Understanding this new bill is not important. The feds do not understand it either, especially the new guy that they call Mr. President. He can't even remember the names of his cabinet members.

 

[clearconscience]

The AFT is so crazy

 

[Nak]

OK, I'm about halfway through this. So far: 1: 80% kits are going to have to be serialized with a full background check. It's unclear to me so far what that means for an 80% receiver sold by itself. I think this is unclear to the ATF too. 2: Uppers are going to be serialized as well. 3: If you get any work done on your PMF (privately made firearm) by a gunsmith, said gunsmith must mark the receiver(s) and register them to you. 4: Redefines how a suppressor is to be serialized.

That's all I have so far; I'm sure there's a lot more.

 

[Dungannon]

While you're watching the ATF, the US Post Office law enforcement folks are monitoring social media for other agencies.

The Postal Service is running a 'covert operations program' that monitors Americans' social media posts

The law enforcement arm of the U.S. Postal Service has been quietly running a program that tracks and collects Americans’ social media posts, including those about planned protests, according to a doc...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Nosferatu]

OK, I'm about halfway through this. So far: 1: 80% kits are going to have to be serialized with a full background check. It's unclear to me so far what that means for an 80% receiver sold by itself. I think this is unclear to the ATF too. 2: Uppers are going to be serialized as well. 3: If you get any work done on your PMF (privately made firearm) by a gunsmith, said gunsmith must mark the receiver(s) and register them to you. 4: Redefines how a suppressor is to be serialized.

That's all I have so far; I'm sure there's a lot more.

I look forward to all the new 79% receivers hitting the market.

 

[Martini_Up]

Expanding the definition of what a receiver is and reducing the number of parts of other definitions, I.e., like fire control.... and requiring SN's on everything (anything that can be made into a firearms) so BGC can be made

 

[Martini_Up]

It's like the ATF is the legislative branch without the cumbersome debates, votes, executive signature, etc..... how efficient of our governement! They're now saving lives, time and $$!! They just write what they think the law should be and it is! Sooooo koooolllll!!!!!

 

[clearconscience]

That's BS. I shouldn't nee to pass a background check for firearms I already own, especially when I have a CHL,

I think all BCGs should remove all firearm information.

All they need to know is if I pass and I'm legally allowed to have one, what I'm buying is none of their business

 

[Pahonix]

"It would change how silencers are regulated by requiring only the outside tube to be serialized instead of each individual part."

I'm in the middle of my form 1 for my first can. Do you now have to put the serial number on all pieces?

 

[Member 34319]

This little tid bit caught my eye...

Currently, licensees other than manufacturers and importers do not have to store their ATF Forms 4473 or A&D records beyond 20 years. This proposed rule would require licensed dealers and collectors to store their Forms 4473 or A&D records indefinitely.

 

[Member 34319]

"It would change how silencers are regulated by requiring only the outside tube to be serialized instead of each individual part."

I'm in the middle of my form 1 for my first can. Do you now have to put the serial number on all pieces?

No, this is not law. Yet...

 

[Member 34319]

If I'm reading it right, it would also make suppressor parts, suppressors. So three lug mounts, different thread pitch front caps, booster assemblies all become part of one serialized suppressor. Destroying the current modularity market trends and going back to the way suppressors were.

 

[Member 52301]

While you're watching the ATF, the US Post Office law enforcement folks are monitoring social media for other agencies.

The Postal Service is running a 'covert operations program' that monitors Americans' social media posts

The law enforcement arm of the U.S. Postal Service has been quietly running a program that tracks and collects Americans’ social media posts, including those about planned protests, according to a doc...

news.yahoo.com

Thanks for putting this up.

I saw that on the WWWeb news from various sources and told my husband about it when I saw it.

They can't DELIVER the MAIL in a timely manner and/or they LOSE MAIL as it is.

Meanwhile they have this salami going on too!

Crazy!

I have been calling and complaining about the U.S. MAIL for a few years now and within the last 1 to 2 years - it is so much WORSE!

Cate

 

[titsonritz]

I knew that part.

What other part is there?

 

[BrandonInIdaho]

Haven't seen this bright up here yet, just curious what everyone's thoughts are? Also, does anyone know how long it takes to CNC cut a AR-15 lower from a billet piece of aluminum?

"around an eight-hour working day in a properly equipped machine shop" was considered "readily" convertible

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