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Page of quotes from the Founding Fathers making their intentions regarding the Second Amendment very clear:

Gun Quotes

Also note that in the Bill of Rights every listed Right is an individual right. It's ridiculous to assert that in the middle of that list some text would be inserted about local national guards.
That still has not stopped anti2A people from repeating the same tired argument about how 2A is a "collective right, not individual right" or how "arms" doesn't mean "all weapons" :rolleyes:

Edit, unfortunately the SCOTUS has consistently upheld the notion that 2A is not unlimited right, and that some arms can be restricted
 
Perhaps the mental disorder seeks higher education?

Joe
Im more confident its an intentional agenda. They dont want to own guns, they want govt to protect them... its easier that way (in theory), so it makes no sense to allow others to own guns even if they are good guys.
It just comes down to a socialist ideology vs individual liberties. And the battle will never end unless their ideology becomes less popular.
 
I disagree, "anyone" seeking to remove or inhibit my 2A rights is an enemy!
Just that simple!

Dan
This includes family and so-called friends.
They are voting to dis arm you.

What if they showed up at your door and said, "we are here for an intervention about your possession of guns?"

They would never do that, so they vote for it every two years, stabbing you in the back.
 
That still has not stopped anti2A people from repeating the same tired argument about how 2A is a "collective right, not individual right" or how "arms" doesn't mean "all weapons" :rolleyes:
When the facts dont support their narrative, the only options are to repeal the law or manipulate the facts....
 
Since Chris was fired from Commie News Network in 2021 and working at News Nation he has been distancing himself from the far left wackos for some time . The winds of change are upon all and the cows are coming home . Pull up a chair , it's about to get interesting in a great way . :)
 
Since Chris was fired from Commie News Network in 2021 and working at News Nation he has been distancing himself from the far left wackos for some time . The winds of change are upon all and the cows are coming home . Pull up a chair , it's about to get interesting in a great way . :)
Which side do you think Cuomo will move to if/when the dems start going after Mr Trump with all the trumped/made up garbage again?
 
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I suppose it could be, but its just odd so many people with such high educations suffer from a mental disorder. Most of it is rooted in propaganda. I'm just baffled at the disconnect with reality. Its not just about guns either, everything is tied together but the lack of reality in the extreme leftists movement is mind boggling, I'm trying to understand the why behind it but nothing about it makes sense.
It might not make sense because you MIGHT be looking at the extreme left and not the majority of those with a higher education. The extreme left certainly has some flaws in their logic, but so does the extreme right. In any group the wacky ones tend to stand out, but we don't want to judge the entire group by those types.
 
It might not make sense because you MIGHT be looking at the extreme left and not the majority of those with a higher education. The extreme left certainly has some flaws in their logic, but so does the extreme right. In any group the wacky ones tend to stand out, but we don't want to judge the entire group by those types.
Agree with that.
But its the extreme left thats been setting policy and social trends for the last 4 years.
 
When there have been reports and discussions of criminal activity who have been the instigators ...... domestic terrorist of the lefty kind FYI . The way to fix a problem is to expose the issue , acknowledge the cause , implement a correction and confirm the change stays on track . That takes maturity , courage and the accountability of law & order . Who's the immature group based on their actions on law & order policies.... pretty easy to see that . That is part of the reason President Trump won his second term because even those on the liberal side had come to the enlightenment of how far the left has fallen . But for some they are never so blind as to refuse to see . Oh well . Carry on .
 
Agree with that.
But its the extreme left thats been setting policy and social trends for the last 4 years.

I'm not clear on what you mean. Can you give an example that would clarify? Would it be 10 round mag limits or something like that?


Moderate liberals have continually voted for their politicians that have supported and created DEI, CRT, anti free speech, lawfare, gender affirmation ideology for children, identity politics, BLM/antifa riot amnesty, defund police, and yeah include the unconstitutional gun prohibitions.
But your not aware of these things?
Moderate liberals have largely supported these extremist policies and probably would have continued if Democrats didnt botch up their presidential campaign so badly.
 
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But the moderate liberals (supposedly not radical) will then say " oh I'm not in agreement with those left wing wackos and their radical policies why that is someone else's crazy family uncle / aunt that I have nothing to do with even though I vote Liberal ".........
 
Moderate liberals have continually voted for their politicians that have supported and created DEI, CRT, anti free speech, lawfare, gender affirmation ideology for children, identity politics, BLM/antifa riot amnesty, defund police, and yeah include the unconstitutional gun prohibitions.
But your not aware of these things?
Moderate liberals have largely supported these extremist policies and probably would have continued if Democrats didnt botch up their presidential campaign so badly.
Just looking at the first three and obviously leaving the gun prohibitions out, those are all things I hear the right talking about, not the left.
DEI - Diversity, Equity, Inclusion? Which one of those is extreme?
CRT - Only taught in upper level college courses. What is the issue with that or the actual theory when taught at that level? Who on the left talks about this? We all know Fox news talked about it hundreds of times over the past few years.
Anti free speech - The left does not have a monopoly on this. Look at the laws being passed in Florida by the right for examples. Are there laws that the left passed banning books or changing the legal status of companies because they took a political position?

These are issues that political interests use to divide us. (gun prohibitions being an exception) Just watch the reactions this post gets for just pointing out some facts and questions that don't fit that narrative for examples of how well it's working.
 
Just looking at the first three and obviously leaving the gun prohibitions out, those are all things I hear the right talking about, not the left.
DEI - Diversity, Equity, Inclusion? Which one of those is extreme?
CRT - Only taught in upper level college courses. What is the issue with that or the actual theory when taught at that level? Who on the left talks about this? We all know Fox news talked about it hundreds of times over the past few years.
Anti free speech - The left does not have a monopoly on this. Look at the laws being passed in Florida by the right for examples. Are there laws that the left passed banning books or changing the legal status of companies because they took a political position?

These are issues that political interests use to divide us. (gun prohibitions being an exception) Just watch the reactions this post gets for just pointing out some facts and questions that don't fit that narrative for examples of how well it's working.
DEI is a policy that promotes minority or people of color over whites based on their race instead of merit. Its literally racism.
CRT is the idea America is systemically rascist, yet its illegal to discriminate.
Anti Free Speech, Harris/waltz literally campagned on prosecuting "misinformation". And nobody's banned any books, thats a liberal lie. Age appropriate school cirriculum has been a part of the education system since it went public. Deciding what cirriculum is age appropriate is NOT banning books. Anyone can buy those books and let their chdren read them as much as they want. The subject is about age appropriate school cirriculum.

Most moderate liberals continue to vote these politicians into office, but these are extremist policies from the progressive liberal movement.
 
As I commented above one is never so blind as one who refuses to see . My grandfather would lead a horse to water but it was up to the horse to realize it needed to drink . Sometimes it takes the realities of life , as salt in experience , to help the need for a change to improve . Like the saying ....Some new Conservatives are just Liberals who were a victim of crime and reality helped them see the light . :)
 
And another one hits the Iignore list!! Sometimes you wonder how stupid people can be and then they set out to show you!! I think we need a thread on "Most appropriate avatar". The winner would be obvious.
 
Some new Conservatives are just Liberals who were a victim of crime and reality helped them see the light . :)
Thank god enough moderate liberals saw the light this election. Ive read a few post election opt eds that these progressive social issues were a huge factor influencing the votes, especially in the swing states. Yet the DNC and their media cohorts still cant figure out why they lost.
 
Thank god enough moderate liberals saw the light this election. Ive read a few post election opt eds that these progressive social issues were a huge factor influencing the votes, especially in the swing states. Yet the DNC and their media cohorts still cant figure out why they lost.
DNC and media are the radical left now . Like the saying ..... if you're not with us , you're against us . The loonie left has taken over the party and that is the cancerous hill they are willing to die on . And they did in this election and ones to come . They wanted their radical policies implemented even without moderate support so here is their bed to lie in . Sometimes you can't fix stupid . The best we can do is avoid the political crash in progress . Carry on .
 

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