Jailed Qwest CEO NSA retaliated because he wouldn’t participate in spy program

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  1. explorerimports

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    Jailed Qwest CEO claimed that NSA retaliated because he wouldn’t participate in spy program

    While National Security Agency’s harvesting of telephone data is often defended as a necessary component of post-9/11 national security, old court documents claim the spy agency was putting such a program into place months before the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

    In court papers filed during his 2007 insider trading trial, former Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio claimed that Denver-based Qwest was denied lucrative NSA contracts he believed to be worth $50-$100 million, after Nacchio refused to involve Qwest in a secret NSA program that he thought would be illegal.

    Subsequent reporting at the time revealed that it was a domestic wiretapping program in which the NSA wanted to snoop on Qwest’s vast telephone network without court orders.

    President George W. Bush’s administration has said that warrantless wiretapping only began after 9/11, as part of the NSA’s Terrorist Surveillance Program.

    Sources familiar with the request to Qwest, quoted anonymously in the New York Times in 2007, “say the arrangement could have permitted neighborhood-by-neighborhood surveillance of phone traffic without a court order, which alarmed them.”

    Nacchio claimed that the NSA retaliated for his refusal by leaving Qwest out of a $2 billion NSA infrastructure program called Groundbreaker, which was split among numerous contractors, including Verizon.

    Verizon, it was recently revealed, was required by court order to give the NSA telephone records from millions of its customer as part of a sweeping surveillance program.

    Nacchio revealed these details in court papers in an attempt to show that he didn’t dump Qwest stock in 2001 because he knew the company was going to post poor performance results in the future. Rather, he suspected the company would benefit from participating in Groundbreaker, which he discussed with NSA personnel in Washington D.C. on Feb. 27, 2001.

    Read more: Qwest CEO claimed gov't retaliated for not participating in spy program | The Daily Caller
  2. timac

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    Thousands Of Firms Trade Confidential Data With The US Government In Exchange For Classified Intelligence

    The rabbit hole just got deeper. A whole lot deeper.
    On Sunday*we predicated*that "there's one reason why the administration, James Clapper and the NSA should just keep their mouths shut as the PRISM-gate fallout escalates:*with every incremental attempt to refute some previously unknown facet of the US Big Brother state, a new piece of previously unleaked information from the same intelligence organization now scrambling for damage control, emerges and exposes the brand new narrative as yet another lie, forcing even more lies, more retribution against sources, more journalist persecution and so on."
    And like a hole that just gets deeper the more you dug and exposes ever more dirt, tonight's installment revealing one more facet of the conversion of a once great republic into a great fascist, "big brother" state,*comes from Bloomberg*which reports that "thousands of technology, finance and manufacturing companies are working closely with U.S. national security agencies,*providing sensitive information and in return receiving benefits that include access to classified intelligence, four people familiar with the process said."
    The companies extend far wider than the legacy telcos, such as Verizon, that launched the entire NSA-spying scandal a week ago: "Makers of hardware and software, banks, Internet security providers, satellite telecommunications companies and many other companies also participate in the government programs. In some cases, the information gathered may be used not just to defend the nation but to help infiltrate computers of its adversaries."
    Many of these same Internet and telecommunications companies voluntarily provide U.S. intelligence organizations with additional data, such as equipment specifications, that don’t involve private communications of their customers, the four people said.
    And since what goes on behind the scenes is confidential, literally anything goes: "Along with the NSA, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and branches of the U.S. military have agreements with such companies to gather data that might seem innocuous but could be highly useful in the hands of U.S. intelligence or cyber warfare units, according to the people, who have either worked for the government or are in companies that have these accords."
    Some of the back and forth is innocuous, such as Microsoft revealing ahead of time the nature of its exposed bugs (ostensibly providing the government with a back door into any system using a Microsoft OS, but since it's don't ask, dont' tell, nobody really knows). However the bulk of the interaction is steeped in secrecy: "Most of the arrangements are so sensitive that only a handful of people in a company know of them, and they are sometimes brokered directly between chief executive officers and the heads of the U.S.’s major spy agencies, the people familiar with those programs said."
    More on this "company within a company":
    Typically, a key executive at a company and a small number of technical people cooperate with different agencies and sometimes multiple units within an agency, according to the four people who described the arrangements.
    If necessary, a company executive, known as a “committing officer,” is given documents that guarantee immunity from civil actions resulting from the transfer of data. The companies are provided with regular updates, which may include the broad parameters of how that information is used.
    Remember how they say conspiracies are impossible because too many people know about them, and the information always eventually leaks? Well not if you contain it to a handful of people in any organization, and force them to sign a bloody NDA, pledging one's first born in the case of secrecy breach.
    An example of a company that is happy to "communicate" with tht the government is Intel's McAfee internet security unit, which in addition to everything is one giant backdoor entrance for the government. If need be of course:
    Intel Corp. (INTC)’s McAfee unit, which makes Internet security software, regularly cooperates with the NSA, FBI and the CIA, for example, and is a valuable partner because of its broad view of malicious Internet traffic, including espionage operations by foreign powers, according to one of the four people, who is familiar with the arrangement.
    Such a relationship would start with an approach to McAfee’s chief executive, who would then clear specific individuals to work with investigators or provide the requested data, the person said. The public would be surprised at how much help the government seeks, the person said.
    McAfee firewalls collect information on hackers who use legitimate servers to do their work, and the company data can be used to pinpoint where attacks begin. The company also has knowledge of the architecture of information networks worldwide, which may be useful to spy agencies who tap into them, the person said.
    Google, another participant in PRISM, already lied about its participation in the covert-op:
    Following an attack on his company by Chinese hackers in 2010, Sergey Brin, Google’s co-founder, was provided with highly sensitive government intelligence linking the attack to a specific unit of the People’s Liberation Army, China’s military, according to one of the people, who is familiar with the government’s investigation.*Brin was given a temporary classified clearance to sit in on the briefing, the person said.
    According to information provided by Snowden, Google, owner of the world’s most popular search engine, had at that point been a Prism participant for more than a year.
    Google CEO Larry Page said in a blog posting June 7 that he hadn’t heard of a program called Prism until after Snowden’s disclosures and that the Mountain View, California-based company didn’t allow the U.S. government direct access to its servers or some back-door to its data centers.*He said Google provides user data to governments “only in accordance with the law.”
    Ah yes, the law that no mere mortal can observe in action, and which has zero popular checks and balances. So what specifically does Google provide to the government? "Highly offensive information" it appears.
    That metadata includes which version of the operating system, browser and Java software are being used on millions of devices around the world, information that U.S. spy agencies could use to infiltrate those computers or phones and spy on their users.
    “It’s highly offensive information,”*said Glenn Chisholm, the former chief information officer for Telstra Corp (TLS)., one of Australia’s largest telecommunications companies, contrasting it to defensive information used to protect computers rather than infiltrate them.
    Going back to Obama's promise on live TV that nobody was listening in to any conversations, one wonders: why did the major telecom companies "ask for guarantees that they wouldn’t be held liable under U.S. wiretap laws." Because if the companies demanded a waiver, they obviously were wiretapping, i.e., eavesdropping, and doing so on US citizens, or those protected by US laws. And that's why Obama should have just kept his mouth shut, instead of having to explain what he meant and that he never said what he said.
    Before they agreed to install the system on their networks, some of the five major Internet companies -- AT&T Inc. (T), Verizon Communications Inc (VZ)., Sprint Nextel Corp. (S), Level 3 Communications Inc (LVLT). and CenturyLink Inc (CTL). --*asked for guarantees that they wouldn’t be held liable under U.S. wiretap laws. Those companies that asked received a*letter signed by the U.S. attorney general*indicating such exposure didn’t meet the legal definition of a wiretap and*granting them immunity from civil lawsuits, the person said.
    Ah, the US Attorney General - because what is another Obama scandal that doesn't involve his primary henchman Eric Holder...
    Mark Siegel, a spokesman for Dallas-based AT&T, the nation’s biggest
    phone carrier, declined to comment. Edward McFadden, a spokesman for
    New York-based Verizon, the second-largest phone company, declined to
    comment. Scott Sloat, a spokesman for Overland Park, Kansas-based
    Sprint, and Monica Martinez, a spokeswoman for Broomfield,
    Colorado-based Level 3, didn’t immediately respond to requests for
    No need to comment - it's quite clear.
    The last question remains: what do companies get out of this proactive betrayal of their clients? Well, in some cases, such as those of IBM and Amazon as*we described yesterday, they get lucrative government (CIA) contracts for billions of dollars. But that's just taxpayer cash. Where it gets worse is when the kickbacks are yet*more secrets.
    In exchange,*leaders of companies are showered with attention and information by the agencies to help maintain the relationship,*the person said. In other cases,*companies are given quick warnings about threats that could affect their bottom line,*including serious Internet attacks and who is behind them.
    In other words, what is going on behind the scenes is nothing more than one vast, very selective, extremely secretive, symbiotic and perfectly "legal" giant information exchange network, which allows corporations to profit off classified government information either in kind or in cash, and which allows the government to have all the information at its disposal, collected using public and private venues, in order to protect itself, to take out those it designates as targets, or simply said - to get ever bigger.
    The loser in all of this?

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  3. peetar

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    What a disgrace the national security apparatus has become.

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    No, Nacchio is in jail because he's a criminal. Nothing more, nothing less. He deserves to be there too.
  5. Dunerunner

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    You couldn't write an action novel any better than this!!
  6. Burt Gummer

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    I love the "you are just a resident in a very large cage". Yes, that is what a citizen of the corp aka The United States of America actually has become. You are nothing more than common stock in a corp; non-voting (puppets are pre-selected, not elected), no real rights.

    Take away the emotion, denial and examine the progression toward being in a complete surveillance police state. All this WITHOUT OBJECTION from the subjects/sheep who falsely believe they are free is a testament to how easily millions of people can be duped.

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    Anyone who contracts at google in The Dalles has to submit to a retinal scan that matches the swipe card used to gain the initial access into a building.
    Once in, you have to look into the scanner, and then you are allowed to proceed thru the next door if everything matches

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