Is there a striker fired pistol that feels like DA/SA?

The Heretic · Jul 23, 2017

I have several striker fired pistols and I have never liked their triggers - always feels like it is increasing the effort to pull the trigger the closer I get to release and it feels squishy. I have had dreams where I pull the trigger and pull and pull and pull and never get to release before it bottoms out.

I really like the DA/SA on my SIG. I would like to get a SIG hi-cap .45 ACP like the P320, but it is striker fired (never tried a striker fired SIG though).

Are there striker fired pistols with triggers that feel more like a conventional trigger?

Nick Burkhardt · Jul 23, 2017

Walther P99 AS.

The Heretic · Jul 23, 2017

Nick Burkhardt said:
Walther P99 AS.

Is that trigger like the Walther CCP?

No_Regerts · Jul 23, 2017

The reason striker fired guns feel squishy is the trigger pull cocks and releases the striker. Im not sure you can fix that, but you can definitely train yourself around it.

FullMetalJerk · Jul 23, 2017

Kahrs. They have a clean break like a single action. The reset is like a DA revolver with no stacking. The triggers are nice and light but I don't like Kahrs. Having a long DA trigger in a pistol is pointless, it defeats the whole purpose.

Nick Burkhardt · Jul 23, 2017

The Heretic said:
Is that trigger like the Walther CCP?

I haven't shot the CCP so I am not sure. The P99 AS is a striker with a decocker so it acts like a DA/SA.

Tony617 · Jul 23, 2017

I really like my HK VP9 which is my only striker fired pistol. The rest of my pistols are all DA/SA. I sleep with a DA/SA pistol since have a bedside holster that fits on my bed frame. The bedside holster is a tight fit with my weapon light, and I am afraid of my striker fired pistol going off in the middle of the night. If I did not have a light on my gun then I would be fine with a striker fired handgun in my bedside holster.

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DirectDrive · Jul 23, 2017

I think you have to look at like this....
Is the striker fully cocked when the weapon is ready ?
I have a PPS-M2 and it is "partially cocked" when ready.
That trigger is about 6 pounds and it's not bad.

Supposedly some of the XD's are fully cocked when ready.

The Walther PPQ-M2 and the CZ P10 are supposed to have some of the best striker-fire triggers on the market.
I don't know what state the striker is in when the weapon is ready.

The Heretic · Jul 23, 2017

I have shot a lot of Glocks and one Kahr. One Glock had a 3 pound trigger. They all felt "squishy". It isn't so much the weight of the trigger, it is the nature of it. I just do not care for the feel compared to a DA/SA or SA trigger.

DirectDrive · Jul 23, 2017

The Heretic said:
I have shot a lot of Glocks and one Kahr. One Glock had a 3 pound trigger. They all felt "squishy". It isn't so much the weight of the trigger, it is the nature of it. I just do not care for the feel compared to a DA/SA or SA trigger.

Like I said, if you have to work the spring from a half-cock condition vs just cutting it loose from a full-cock condition, then there would be a difference in feel I would think.

cigars · Jul 23, 2017

FullMetalJerk said:
Kahrs. They have a clean break like a single action. The reset is like a DA revolver with no stacking. The triggers are nice and light but I don't like Kahrs. Having a long DA trigger in a pistol is pointless, it defeats the whole purpose.

Yes, Kahrs. I've had my CW45 for about four years now. It's my EDC.

Tony617 · Jul 23, 2017

DirectDrive said:
I think you have to look at like this....
Is the striker fully cocked when the weapon is ready ?
I have a PPS-M2 and it is "partially cocked" when ready.
That trigger is about 6 pounds and it's not bad.

Supposedly some of the XD's are fully cocked when ready.

The Walther PPQ-M2 and the CZ P10 are supposed to have some of the best striker-fire triggers on the market.
I don't know what state the striker is in when the weapon is ready.

I have an XD40SC and I used to use that for my bedside gun with a light in the past. You have depress the safety on the grip as well to make it fire. I actually carried the XD40SC when I was riding my bike regularly some years back.

FullMetalJerk · Jul 23, 2017

cigars said:
Yes, Kahrs. I've had my CW45 for about four years now. It's my EDC.

I had a CW45 and it was a good gun. I liked it at first, it'll feed anything, just not a fan of the DAO trigger. Not a fan of the 500rds breakin requirement, if you ask me that's bs. Their .40S&W pistols are full of problems.

Pops1911 · Jul 23, 2017

The Heretic said:
I have several striker fired pistols and I have never liked their triggers - always feels like it is increasing the effort to pull the trigger the closer I get to release and it feels squishy. I have had dreams where I pull the trigger and pull and pull and pull and never get to release before it bottoms out.

I really like the DA/SA on my SIG. I would like to get a SIG hi-cap .45 ACP like the P320, but it is striker fired (never tried a striker fired SIG though).

Are there striker fired pistols with triggers that feel more like a conventional trigger?

I really like my 10 round Sig mag in my p220 .45acp. Maybe that could successfully address your search?

ageingstudent · Jul 23, 2017

Nick Burkhardt said:
I haven't shot the CCP so I am not sure. The P99 AS is a striker with a decocker so it acts like a DA/SA.

The p99 AS trigger is nothing like the ccp. The ccp is a whole different striker fired animal from the p99 AS. CCP trigger is long takeup long reset and weird. It takes considerable getting used to.

The Heretic · Jul 23, 2017

Pops1911 said:
I really like my 10 round Sig mag in my p220 .45acp. Maybe that could successfully address your search?

G21 - 13 rds. 14 with a +1 mag.
P320 - 14 rd extended mag?

L84Cabo · Jul 23, 2017

Um...ok...I'll ask the dumb and obvious question...so why not just carry a Sig if you like the trigger so much?

In other news, an M&P with an Apex Forward Set Sear/Flat Faced Trigger is a thing of beauty. It's as close as I've found...so far...to a 1911 "style" feel in a non 1911 gun. To be clear, it's absolutely not a 1911 trigger. But it's pretty good IMO. YMMV

The Heretic · Jul 23, 2017

L84Cabo said:
Um...ok...I'll ask the dumb and obvious question...so why not just carry a Sig if you like the trigger so much?

In other news, an M&P with an Apex Forward Set Sear/Flat Faced Trigger is a thing of beauty. It's as close as I've found...so far...to a 1911 "style" feel in a non 1911 gun. To be clear, it's absolutely not a 1911 trigger. But it's pretty good IMO. YMMV

Not all SIGs are DA/SA. I don't have a SIG in .45, but I really really like the ergos and trigger on my P229. I would like a different hi-cap .45 than a Glock and I would really like it to be a SIG, but if it can't be a SIG then maybe something else. Exploring my options here.

Certaindeaf · Jul 23, 2017

FullMetalJerk said:
.Having a long DA trigger in a pistol is pointless, it defeats the whole purpose.

The whole purpose of what? Jerry Miculek seems to hit the target pretty fast and accurately.. shooting DA with a revolver.

L84Cabo · Jul 23, 2017

The Heretic said:
Not all SIGs are DA/SA. I don't have a SIG in .45, but I really really like the ergos and trigger on my P229. I would like a different hi-cap .45 than a Glock and I would really like it to be a SIG, but if it can't be a SIG then maybe something else. Exploring my options here.

Sig P227 would seem to be the obvious choice. 10+1 or 14+1 with the optional mag. SA/DA, no striker.