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No, I didn't notice it being broken. A few bullet holes and a couple of missing signs, but okay for now.
I guess it's been so long since I've been there that I didn't remember there was an opening in the middle of the jersey barriers! the boulders threw me off! Duh.
 
The Stoner Pit!

Come show your support for our active military service members and your respect for recreation on our public lands! And bring something for the 'After Party'!

Details on the Trash No Land web page Upcoming Events:


https://www.trashnoland.org/elbe-hills-shooting-pit-cleanup-afi-tnl-dnr/

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Who's coming to Elbe WA this Saturday? Come meet some of our active military service members, members of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers and some staff of Trash No Land. Oh, we'll clean up the Stoner shooting pit while we're at it. ;)

We got lunch planned for you! Heck, we'll even have a nice restroom on site, complete with running water, piped in music and a porter for all your comfort needs! :) (Okay, no music or porter, but it's a really nice restroom! :D
 
Time to change up your shooting game!

It's here once again. Hot, Dry weather. Don't be the cause of a wildfire! Consider a modified plan.

Note: I haven't heard of any shooting closures yet, OR or WA. But I wouldn't doubt it if it happens anytime now. Sometimes it's best to give it a rest and hold off till conditions change, or cooler days.


 
Sorry, I do pack those items with me. I am going to keep on shooting until they close the gates. Government already cuts into my shooting time enough as it is.
 
Fires from target shooting are real.

Everything said here is true and what Trash No Land has been preaching since 2017 when we incorporated into a nonprofit organization. Take heed!
Target shooting is a serious kind of recreation and the utmost care should be given. Enjoy, but do it with public safety and fire prevention in mind.
This article is from Oregon Dept of Forestry (ODF), July 25th:


FIRE SAFETY EMPHASIZED AS 5 FIRES CONNECTED TO TARGET SHOOTING IN TILLAMOOK STATE FOREST QUICKLY PUT OUT
News Release from Oregon Dept. of ForestryPosted on Flash
Alert: July 25th, 2025 10:41 AM

TILLAMOOK STATE FOREST, Ore.—The quick actions of Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF) crews and rural fire departments have put out five fires just since May connected to target shooting. "These fires are all preventable," said Stephanie Beall, acting District Forester for Forest Grove. "Thanks to timely reporting and quick response times by firefighting resources, these fires have been kept small so far, with the largest fire reaching only 1.5 acres, but it only takes a little bit of wind to quickly expand a fire if the fuel conditions are right".

There is a long list of state forest shooting regulations and simplified dos and don'ts while target shooting that are good to follow for any area of the state. They are all important but there are some critical ones during fire season.

"The two most pressing problems are people bringing out and shooting exploding targets and shooting into stumps, logs or other debris," said Beall.

Exploding targets are banned year-round in all of Oregon's state forests. Materials such as Tannerite can scatter hot debris in a large area quickly igniting dry fuels. But it's not only exploding targets that are a concern, the hot lead of regular rounds that hits stumps and other natural backstops or targets can smolder for hours leading to fire starts long after the shooter has left the area. To minimize this hazard shooters should not put targets on or in front of logs, stumps or grassy areas.

"People are required to use manufactured targets on all state forests, with the exception being paper targets printed at home." said Ben Burns, ODF's Recreation Operations Manager. "Do not place targets on live trees, stumps, logs or in any dry brushy areas."
The department has built several shooting lanes throughout the state forest system but even those can be a fire hazard if not used properly.
"The Wolf Creek shooting lanes have ranges from 20 – 70 yards," said Burns. "It is important that people use the designated backstops and do not shoot beyond these borders into the vegetation beyond."

Another rule of which many recreational users are not aware, is that anyone using a vehicle in state forests during the regulated use portion of fire season must have a shovel and either a gallon of water or a 2.5-pound (or larger) fire extinguisher in that vehicle.

Although not following the rules can endanger people and the forest itself, ODF's emphasis is on education before enforcement.

"You can ask our recreation staff or any ODF employee to clarify the rules if you are unsure," said Burns. "We are here to help everyone safely enjoy the forests no matter what activity they choose from hiking, biking, OHV riding, target shooting, camping and many other outdoor opportunities."

However, for repeat offenders and forest users who put people in imminent danger, local law enforcement officers do patrol state forests and can issue citations on the spot and more.

"The Tillamook County Sheriff's Office has three dedicated officers to patrol the Tillamook State Forest thanks to funds that come from the state's ATV registration fees and matching grant funds from ODF," said Burns. "We meet regularly with them to discuss issues and areas to patrol more frequently, and target shooting is an area of emphasis right now."

But the emphasis remains on education and compliance.

"As someone who enjoys target shooting, I keep fire in mind as part of shooting safety," said Beall. "I buy manufactured targets, lay down a tarp to catch my brass and check the area for garbage when I'm done."

Taking fire risk into consideration as part of any recreation activity is one of ODF's education focuses when talking to the public.

"Every year 70 percent or more of our wildland fires are started by people—all of those are preventable," said Beall.

If you see a fire call 911. Also if you are a witness to the start of a fire and can provide information, eye-witness statements, video, photos or any other data, you can assist investigators by emailing them to [email protected]. This information helps our investigators in creating a full picture of what happened and identify a responsible party if there is one.
 
(I know! The link says 2024, but we know better. I'll get that changed soon.)

It was a perfect day for some outdoor recreational stewardship! These volunteers were lots of fun and got it done! Thank you All who invested 4 hours of their time on a Saturday! Well done!

Bill

Bless those who take their own time and money to clean up the mess the TOTALLY irresponsible shooters leave behind. The morons who leave the mess are the first ones to scream when an area is closed to shooting. If they would clean up their own mess instead of running their mouth? We could keep more places open. THANKS to those who come behind them and clean!
 
Public Land Target Shooting Sites Are Being Neglected...

The trash is phenomenal! It's out of hand! It's a disgrace to the age-old, highly revered, reputation of 'Responsible Gun Owners'!

Just visit a forest, any old forest, and look for trash. You'll find it at a target shooting site. Rarely will it be at a trailhead like Hiking, OHV, Motorcycle or Mountain Bike trails (they seem to care for their kind of recreation and they keep it clean!). But when it comes to recreational target shooting sites?... they're all trashed!

Certainly there is illegal dumping going on, due to the high cost of dump fees, high cost of living and those who have an "I don't care" attitude. Quite often they will dump at a target shooting site just because they see lots of other trash there. However, most of the trash is left behind from target shooters.

What happened? Why is this getting so bad? Some say it's since COVID in 2020. Others say it's the economy and they can't afford to pay the disposal cost. Some will say it's the 'Anti-gun people' trying to make target shooting on public land look so bad they'll have to close it down. And some say it's those who were not raised properly and have no ethics about leaving their trash behind ("someone else will pick it up!")... Well, that "someone else" doesn't come along very often!

The Trash No Land organization hosts 8 to 10 group cleanup events at target shooting sites on public lands each year in Oregon and Washington. That's not nearly enough to make a difference Northwest wide. There are SO MANY forests, with SO MANY shooting sites, that 8-10 cleanups/yr doesn't get them all cleaned up. So, we still look bad, in the eyes of other recreational users, simply because of the disgraceful sight at each shooting spot in the forest.

"I always clean up my mess when I'm done shooting", says many-a -target shooter. If that's true, why is there so much trash left behind? Me being reasonable, I gotta believe what they claim, however, the goal is to TAKE OUT MORE THAN WHAT YOU BROUGHT IN! That's the idea behind 'Trash No Land'. You don't trash it, and you do your best to clean up any other trash you find. Like 'Leave No Trace' and Tread Lightly. Make it look like no one has been there before.

This past weekend, like many other weekends before, I know of two Solo cleanup efforts done at target shooting places on public lands. One was myself in the Yacolt Burn State Forest in SW Washington, and the other was done by an Albany couple who visited the Neal Creek area SE of Stayton, OR, Craig and Tracy Yon. Pics are below.

This is just a small sample of the mayhem that's happening at most of the public land forests in Oregon and Washington. There is more... much more, and more devastating than this!

So, what's it going to be? Trash public land shooting sites and see that they get closed down? Or clean it up and try to save it? It doesn't take much for one person to make a big difference. What difference can you make in your backyard playground?

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Bill Cogley
Pres/CEO Trash No Land
 
Unfortunately all it takes is a couple of irresponsible shooters to trash a shooting site. Always pack out more than I brought in, but you are correct, these shooting sites are getting more and more trashed.

If only there were a way to fine/punish those who are trashing these sites…
 
Would be great but consider what places like dirt world out in CO looks like. LE won't put the man hours into any kind if enforcement unless they just luck into catching someone red handed.
 
The BC615, improved dispersed shooting lane in the Santiam State Forest, will be temporarily closed starting 10/1/25 due to a logging operation happening right behind the lanes. This closure will most likely last 3 months to ensure safety of the logging crews. The marketing unit will be posting a sign on site of some safe alternative target shooting locations nearby.

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@Rem700..300 , would you and Tracy like to meet up there to do a Random-Act-Of-Cleanup ? Perhaps sometime in October? Not Oct 11th however. That's the date I'm planning a cleanup at Wolf Creek Lanes. Maybe we could meet later in the month. I'll need ODF's okay to access and the gate key. But I don't want to mess up you hunting season.
 

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