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Another Law Enforcement Officer is dead along with an innocent bystander while some worthless walking turd lives. No doubt due to the constant "we hate all Cops" mantra. Because this Officer hesitated to shoot an "unarmed man of color" no doubt.
Massachusetts police officer killed after attacked with rock, shot with own gun, officials say

No doubt the Cop should have shot him. No doubt in my mind he hesitated too long because he was afraid of what the media would scream if he had fired.
 
The sad thing is if this LEO shot this guy there would be mad protests, media swamping this Officer and local politicians crying about needing reform.

This is what happens when LEOs don't shoot evil people.
Whether their carrying a gun, knife, rock, shouldn't matter if you don't listen to the LEOs your should get your lead medication and a nice wood box.

Their cry baby families should blame themselves for raising a POS
 
The sad thing is if this LEO shot this guy there would be mad protests, media swamping this Officer and local politicians crying about needing reform.

This is what happens when LEOs don't shoot evil people.
Whether their carrying a gun, knife, rock, shouldn't matter if you don't listen to the LEOs your should get your lead medication and a nice wood box.

Their cry baby families should blame themselves for raising a POS

DITTO!
I of course was not there, so can't "know" but, I would bet the reason the LEO died was hesitation due to media. So many Cops now think if they fire their gun their life and career may well be over. I work with some great young people I used to encourage to go into Enforcement. Used to tell them "you can do your 20 or 25, walk away with a nice pension, still be younger than I am now and go on to something else." One of them did and is now done with training and working. A couple others got the degree needed, even paid and passed the state tests. They are now balking at the idea. They see the constant drum beat of "We hate Cops" and they no longer want the job. Can't say I blame them any more. Last year I have been pushing them to go into medical instead. Some great jobs that pay just as much with the same benefits. It's really sad that I have to try to talk them out of being a Cop as they would be VERY good at the job and we need more good Cops. The left is begging for anarchy and the people who blindly support them are the ones who are going to get hurt by this. Another be careful what you ask for, you may get it.
 
We built this.........we allowed this, we voted for this. Even if you personally didn't ( the reader) you still let it happen. We all did.

I mean lets be honest somewhere there is a good amount of Gun owners that want camp on Prozanskis Lawn and protest but we can't and wont. Yet one Republican says Boobie and you end up with 100 Leftist Socialist Pigs on their doorsteps. We have allowed double standards fpr so long, we don't even have any we stand behind.
 
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We built this.........we allowed this, we voted for this. Even if you personally didn't ( the reader) you still let it happen. We all did.

I mean lets be honest somewhere there is a good amount of Gun owners that want camp on Prozanskis Lawn and protest but we can't and wont. Yet one Republican says Boobie and you end up with 100 Leftist Social Pigs on their doorsteps. We have allowed double standards fpr so long, we don't even have any we stand behind.

I disagree that we "allowed" this 100%. Don't lump me into the majority of spineless twits that think their "feelings" matter before facts. I know who and how I voted, so there is no "we" in this equation.

A police officer died. That's terrible. But it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 
I believe that if I pull my handgun out I have already made the decision to pull the trigger, but it's not quite that easy. More so if you're a cop. I didn't read the whole article, but it wouldn't have answered my questions anyway.
Yeah, the cop should have shot him, not only because of what the perp was likely to do, but to prevent what actually did happen from happening. Being disarmed by a bad guy is not a good thing. Shoot the SOB just to keep him from taking the gun you've just drawn.
It's a damn shame two good people died instead of one POS.
 
I disagree that we "allowed" this 100%. Don't lump me into the majority of spineless twits that think their "feelings" matter before facts. I know who and how I voted, so there is no "we" in this equation.

A police officer died. That's terrible. But it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

had stated... Even if you personally didn't ( the reader) you still let it happen. We all did.
I think until we are standing armed on the streets we are allowing this to happen... we surely do not resist or stand side by side with LEO why they are taking this abuse, not out in the open.
If this was a LBGT issue you would have riots on the streets, a officer is gunned down and we go back next day like nothing happened. If a person breaks in our homes we don't work hard to resist, we set our lives on the line. A officer put his life on the line and our rebuttle is to post our disgust on a forum... its just not right. This needs to end. The brotherhood is coming of that I have no doubt, a fellowship that can not be censored.
 
I disagree that we "allowed" this 100%. Don't lump me into the majority of spineless twits that think their "feelings" matter before facts. I know who and how I voted, so there is no "we" in this equation.

A police officer died. That's terrible. But it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Couldn't agree more. This whole "we allowed this" mentality is belied by that fact that we live in a democracy and are able to vote our counscience. Every single swinging Richard in this country that owns a gun, has served in the military and/or supports the troops/law enforcement/firefighters/EMT's and whomever else can vote their hearts out for this politician or that policy. But ultimately, the blame for this toxic attitude towards good cops going out and doing their jobs lies solely with the "tolerant" left and the politicians and policies and rhetoric they continue to support. The same leftist progressives that, unfortunately, seem to outnumber us in all the districts that matter. It is not a product of us conservative inclined citizens not doing our piece.
 
had stated... Even if you personally didn't ( the reader) you still let it happen. We all did.
I think until we are standing armed on the streets we are allowing this to happen... we surely do not resist or stand side by side with LEO why they are taking this abuse, not out in the open.
If this was a LBGT issue you would have riots on the streets, a officer is gunned down and we go back next day like nothing happened. If a person breaks in our homes we don't work hard to resist, we set our lives on the line. A officer put his life on the line and our rebuttle is to post our disgust on a forum... its just not right. This needs to end. The brotherhood is coming of that I have no doubt, a fellowship that can not be censored.

DH, you and I have gotten to know each other a little bit better over the last 6 months or so. But that doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you all the time. And NO. I DID NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.

YES, I do stand side by side with LEO. Anyone that knows me knows I've been in a few spots where not only did I protect others, I assisted first responders in getting the job done. As a civilian.

I stopped an armed robbery and held the suspects at gunpoint until LEO's arrived.

I pulled, pried and kicked down the doors of 7 families that were unaware their apartment building was on fire. Including carrying an 80+ year old crazy cat lady down a flight of stairs on my back.

I performed (successfully) CPR on a perfect stranger that had a heart attack at my old job. He lived. Because of what I did. NOBODY else in the place would touch him, but I did.

So no Sir, I don't LET things happen.
 
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You can thank the left for this, this is exactly the behavior they encourage. As I said in another thread, they embrace illegal immigrants and lawlessness... So, I say that all those within the democrat and republican parties who embrace these behaviors, this police officers blood is on your hands...

May God have mercy on your wretched souls, if you even have one...
 
My heart goes out to the officer....

Interestingly (and despite the rhetoric) being a police officer is safer then ever, fatalities peaked in 1930...

Officer Deaths by Year

Line if duty deaths are down, shootings by police are down, but the MSM would have you believe that police are gunning down civilians for fun and the bad guys are killing cops left and right. Its a statistical anomaly either way.
 
Line if duty deaths are down, shootings by police are down, but the MSM would have you believe that police are gunning down civilians for fun and the bad guys are killing cops left and right. Its a statistical anomaly either way.

And "sovereign citizens" really help too. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not a cop, nor do I play one on TV. But when I was a kid my buddy Jeff and I played Reed and Malloy a lot... That's a different story.

I have family that have been cops and issues like this hit close to home. I'd always thought that being an officer was a good thing to do, but never gave serious thought to doing it until I was too old and cranky to want to work nights, weekends and holidays.
If you're a uniformed officer I've always felt that was somewhat like having a target on your back. I feel that if someone pulls a gun on an officer, they just gave the ok to get shot. To me it's simple.
 
Line if duty deaths are down, shootings by police are down, but the MSM would have you believe that police are gunning down civilians for fun and the bad guys are killing cops left and right. Its a statistical anomaly either way.

Coincidentally in college I attempted to do a regression of police involved shootings, and see if race and number of bullets fired had a correlation. Unfortunately Data was largely incomplete ( circa 2013, the FBI statistics were voluntary), I suspect due to lobbying by police unions, not wanting to be compared to one another. Ended up using crown-sourced data (Via the fatal encounters project). Data had large variances I was never able to resolve.

Fatal encounter project data:

Fatal Encounters

The project is still on going, and likely an admirable cause... After all the greatest power of the state is to take life, the public has a right to know about the circumstances that happen in.
 
Sad to read. Godspeed to Officer Chesna.
I spent two weeks each summer in Hingham, right next door to Weymouth.
Both were sleepy towns, great places to grow up. My cousins *never* locked their doors.
It's not that we let this happen. It's that, as a citizen or LEO, we sometimes come face to face with pure evil, and better be prepared to put it down at the slightest provocation. Fvck MSM and the kangaroo court of popular opinion.
Be righteous, stand tall, answer for your actions.
 

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