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If you order online, be aware of fraud.

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by NWGlockgal, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Last month I ordered an item from PSA and when I got my credit card bill today I noticed two unathorized charges from a company called Mobilifier.
    Googling the company, they are involved in fraud and are recently hitting people who have purchased guns or gun related items online. Most people who have been hit have ordered from Natchez, but a couple have ordered from PSA.

    If you have ordered anything online in the last couple of months, check you credit card statements closely. Mine were only for $1.00 each, and maybe they figured people would over look those.
    Others have been hit with charges from $20-$40.
     
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  2. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Platinum Supporter Platinum Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter

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    They start with low amounts and work up. I've had to cancel my debit card a few times. I watch my account for fraud every day. I'm gonna check right now:p
     
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  3. P7id10T

    P7id10T West Slope Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Thanks!
    Years ago, I read an article in the Economist about porn sites which people subscribe to that also post incidental charges to the clients' credit cards. The DOJ and state attorney generals were bringing suit against the companies. The rationale: most would not notice, those that did would be too embarrassed to complain. After thousands of customers demanded credit companies remove the charges, the companies reported it to the states and feds.
     
  4. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Credit union calls me if anything is suspicious.

    I'm broke too so there isn't much to take.
     
  5. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I've had my bank call me too if they see something unusual.
    However, these are small charges, anywhere from $1.00 to $40.00,
    nothing that would get a bank's attention.
     
  6. misterarman

    misterarman Vancouver,Wa. USA Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Chase has notified of 2 different $1 charges in recent months.
    Monitor your accounts daily.
    The quicker you find it the easier it is to get it dealt with.
     
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  7. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Don't be too sure:
    The last three times we have been called they were $1, $2 and $2.99. The 2.99 was the only one we made. Maybe it's the difference between credit union and bank...
     
  8. Stomper

    Stomper Ungovernable! Become Ungovernable! Gold Supporter

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    If you could just get $1 from one million people....
     
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  9. misterarman

    misterarman Vancouver,Wa. USA Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    And then do it for 100 and then 500.
     
  10. Don H

    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info! Last month I saw a $1 charge to apple and then $20 from Mobilifier on my Amex app. Amex emailed me within minutes and I had a new card the next day. I was wondering how they got my card and I did buy a case of 5.56 from Natchez a couple of months ago. I'll remember to not be lazy and let them remember my card next time.
     
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  11. Stomper

    Stomper Ungovernable! Become Ungovernable! Gold Supporter

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    I never ever select the option to keep my payment method saved for "future convenience" at check-out!
     
  12. decklin

    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    A buddy of mine was just telling me he bought ammo and noticed two .88 charges on his card.
     
  13. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Might be....I noticed it, the bank didn't call me. They have notified when there has been obvious attempts at fraud (over seas usage or an unusual spending pattern).
     
  14. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Is it from Mobilifier?
     
  15. decklin

    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    I'll ask when I see him later today.
     
  16. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Actually, many banks are on to this, and will flag such purchases as suspicious.

    A person can order from PSA over the phone. Do that, and your card info will never be accessible on their website.

    .
     
  17. Provincial

    Provincial Near Salem, OR Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps it is a part of "Operation Choke Point", the Obama administration's attempt to prevent firearms related commerce from using the banking system. A spin-off Psyop designed to discredit sellers and spook buyers into limiting purchases out of fear of fraud and identiy theft. :eek:

    Where did I leave that tinfoil hat? I just had it on a few minutes ago. :confused:
    ;)
     
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  18. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Online purchases are best done using a credit card instead of a debit card.

    The credit card has buyer protection built into it, the debit is a direct siphon into your cash.

    Best practice is use a credit card for the purchase then use your debit (or transfer) to pay off the card before the next billing cycle so there's no interest fee. :cool:
     
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  19. kilimanjaro

    kilimanjaro Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    A good practice is to get your bank to void your debit card and issue a new one, once a year, whether you need to or not. Any card info the scammers buy and sell will become useless.
     
  20. Larrytpdx

    Larrytpdx Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Good advice.