If not here, then where?

[crstrode]

I don't know why people keep saying Idaho's turning blue when voter registration data is showing the opposite, namely that it's getting redder.

Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.

 

[crstrode]

ID is first thought but Boiseand Panhandle are turning blue.
Love the Badlands but no more cold winters in my future. I can visit to go snowmobiling.
We loved our somewhat recent 5yr+ stent in KY but TN is very tempting today.
Short list is basically all in the SE but not in easy reach of hurricanes.

Boise is lib and has been for decades.
Coeur d'alene is (was) a quaint small town completely over-run with blue-haired pierced trannys and karens.
Sandpoint is East-Bay San Fran of the north.
Moscow is the classic University town cesspool

Move a few miles to the west and there is Spokane. The mayor's moniker is Sandanista Lisa. She is a card-carrying communist and a sycophant of Daniel Ortega.

As one that was born and raised in Idaho it is painful to witness the decay.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I don't know why people keep saying Idaho's turning blue when voter registration data is showing the opposite, namely that it's getting redder.

ID is first thought but Boiseand Panhandle are turning blue.
Love the Badlands but no more cold winters in my future. I can visit to go snowmobiling.
We loved our somewhat recent 5yr+ stent in KY but TN is very tempting today.
Short list is basically all in the SE but not in easy reach of hurricanes.

Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.

Boise is lib and has been for decades.
Coeur d'alene is a quint small town completely over -run with blue-haired pierced trannys and karens.
Sandpoint is East-Bay San Fran of the north.
Moscow is the classic University town cesspool

As one that was born and raised in Idaho it is painful to witness the decay.

Move a few miles to the west and there is Spokane. The mayor's moniker is Sandanista Lisa. She is a card-carrying communist and a sycophant of Daniel Ortega.

Perhaps... It only seems that the voting records are getting redder but visibly, the cities are getting bluer.... Only because more people overall are moving into Idaho, but not all of them are moving into the cities/metro areas...., just it's the D voters who are moving to the cities while the rural population is also growing with people wishing to be left alone and voting accordingly?

 

[DangerDog]

I moved from Portland to West Virginia in 2021. I wasn't in Portland by choice, but I got gone as soon as I was able. I don't have a place of my own, so I move around between Ohio and WV frequently. I like it that way. No issues in WV or Ohio. Still free states over all. There's Naz!s no matter what state you go to though.

Idaho is also nice. Grew up in Salmon for some time.

 

[Olderguy]

Just stay close to family. I'd just tough out where you are. Laws change with location. Years ago no one would have thought this could ever happen in Oregon. Purchase some guns you want before 114 and then forget buying a purchase permit, as this is how the libs plan to finance everything. Unfortunately 114 will put some gun stores out of business, I would imagine.

 

[DangerDog]

I will say most of Oregon is NOT the Naz! stronghold like Portland is. I reckon just move to a county that isn't under their control and full of their anti-American supporters.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I will say most of Oregon is NOT the Naz! stronghold like Portland is. I reckon just move to a county that isn't under their control and full of their anti-American supporters.

The issue is that the anti-gun metro areas outnumber the pro gun rural population by quite a margin; if voter registration data is anything to go by. And it seems on a daily basis, people who generally support 2a and aren't anti-gun; are moving out of Oregon, thus widening the gap.

And it's the ruling party that feels they have a mandate, a requirement to decide everything for the "good of all" at the detriment of liberty, Constitution and "majority rules, we know you better than you do"

 

[robsha]

I fled NY for Seattle primarily for economic reasons. That WA was very 2A friendly compared what I fled was also great. The PNW was a great area to live. It is unbelievable how fast the lefties destroyed both WA and OR. It is not just 2A issues, but also taxes, and the destruction wrought by not prosecuting criminals and rampant public drug use. One party rule is a disaster and too many of us that would vote against the status quo have fled to freer states.



I have property in eastern WA and if Jefferson or Grater Idaho were real that would be a great option. My wife's family is in the Seattle area and she would never move away from the area. I am angry that parts the BoR are not valid in the west coast states.

 

[CamoDeafie]

The PNW was a great area to live. It is unbelievable how fast the lefties destroyed both WA and OR.

I don't know how long ago did WA State legislature turned D Maj but OR lost R majority in both Houses by 2005.

 

[Rkangel]

I've been considering Montana/Idaho for a long time. But it also has become apparent that my biggest barrier to getting out of this state isn't finding a job, or the expense of moving, but convincing the family.

 

[Explorer1]

I don't know how long ago did WA State legislature turned D Maj but OR lost R majority in both Houses by 2005.

WA has basically been a one-party state for about 40 years, it just turned even worse this last election IIRC.

 

[Bobbygun]

I don't know how long ago did WA State legislature turned D Maj but OR lost R majority in both Houses by 2005.

And hasn't elected a Republican governor since 1982.

 

[Exem177]

I ain't leaving Oregon, or Portland for that matter.

I own a nice home in a quiet suburb with friendly neighbors, and I've built a happy life for myself with access to pretty much anything I want. Whatever they decide in Salem isn't changing that.

Besides, Boise is 6 hours away and I have an address in AZ.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I've been looking at St. George UT, real estate is half of the area I live in. Big attraction for me are communities that are predominantly Mormon. They make for good neighbors and usually have significant influence over local sociopolitical issues, which keeps the BS to a minimum. I know people have a negative perception of Mormons, but they run nice communities.

My biggest issue is that anywhere I go, I am facing a significant pay reduction. West Coast cities pay well for both my wife and I, and both of us face significant pay cuts for leaving.

However, on our last road trip we bought gas in LA at $5.75/gal, next fuel up occurred in Nevada and it was $2.75/gal, perfect example of politics impacting our lives far more than people want to admit

The bad thing about Utah is it's a sanctuary state that protects illegals.

 

[Rkangel]

Parts of Utah are ok, but yeah not fond of the purple tint it has taken on. What are the positives and negatives of Wyoming?

 

[Xaevian]

Parts of Utah are ok, but yeah not fond of the purple tint it has taken on. What are the positives and negatives of Wyoming?

WY has the highest suicide rate in the nation, so you get new neighbors all the time. The downside is so many people dying to leave.

 

[TheShanMan]

I've been wanting to leave since the covid crap started here but getting my wife on board has been tough. My first choice would be Tennessee, which would be a big change since we're lifetime west coasters, but we really liked it there and it checks the boxes like strong 2A and super red. Not perfect as every place has pros and cons. Idaho comes in 2nd. Just waiting for my wife to get on board, but I've told her if (when!) we get more anti-2A laws, staying is no longer on the table. I've been pretty unhappy here for the last 5+ years for several reasons. Hopefully that day will come soon.

 

[Rkangel]

WY has the highest suicide rate in the nation, so you get new neighbors all the time. The downside is so many people dying to leave.

I'm guessing mostly flat, combined with boredom, and limited work opportunities might be part of it, too. I know some people who said the same about North Dakota. Other than the fact that they made a ton of money during the first "drill baby drill" era. There wasn't much else to draw people there. And the winters suck hard.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Parts of Utah are ok, but yeah not fond of the purple tint it has taken on. What are the positives and negatives of Wyoming?

Pros, so much land for the money compared to Oregon. Relatively affordable housing. Lack of busybody people to annoy you. Lack of urban sprawl and urban shopping centers. Lack of "multicultural" eating places and music/arts communities


Cons, isolated communities, lack of busybody people to check on you
Brutal winters last I read about
Lack of urban shopping areas, like only big box stores or similar, only big chain restaurants or bars/taverns, not much family dining other than big chain places. Lack of "multicultural" eating places and music/arts communities.



Edit. It might be a great State to buy up large lots and build family compounds for multi-generational families, if you have the coin, and a large, extended family who's up for it that loves being away from people. But the same can be said for Utah, both Dakotas, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Texas, with the last few having considerably more people closer

 

[awags_86]

My whole life is Oregon. The thought of uprooting and starting over entirely in a strange place hoping for "greener grass", all because of the literal insanity here is incredibly saddening.

I grew up in the Dakotas til almost 30, lived in Iowa for 2 years, Florida for 3 years, and now almost 3 years here. I'm not even 40 yet. It's really not that intimidating once you commit. Make a plan and go for it. People do it all the time. We're planning our escape here already back to the Midwest. This is no place for kiddos to grow up. If you're competent in your line of work, jobs can be had.