"I have this gun my uncle gave me....."

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  1. nehalemguy

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    Sitting having coffee this morning with a old friend that I haven't seen for awhile and we start discussing firearms.

    He says "Oh that reminds me......I got this old pistol from my uncle last year."

    Oh my.........:D.

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  2. Dyjital

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    Wow
     
  3. Alexx1401

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    DAMN!! Does he know what he has there? Impressive!!
     
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    I just wet myself. :oops:
     
  5. nehalemguy

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    Trying to date it. Four digit serial number with a "u" suffix. "Crown N" proof marks.

    Only mark on the holster is "FAR.58"

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  6. Mikej

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    Play it down, and offer him $250.00? ;)

    Edit: How good of a friend?
     
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    :eek:

    Lucky sob
     
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    It should have the year of manufacture stamped on the top of the receiver over the chamber.

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  9. nehalemguy

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    No date.

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  10. jbett98

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    What caliber is it?
     
  11. Mooseman

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    It appears you have a 1914 Commercial DWM Luger and depending on condition run around the 2000 to 3000 dollar price range.
    Rich
     
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    I'm thinking .30 Luger but there is a second barrel with it that looks to be 9mm.

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    If the toggle is matching the pistol was made by DWM (Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken) prior to or during World War I. After the war German weapon production for the military was extremely restricted by the Treaty of Versailles so in order to survive DWM rebuilt Lugers after WWI for civilian and export sales. The original year of manufacture was typically scrubbed during the process so the rebuilt Luger could be sold "as new".

    That Luger is likely one of those that was scrubbed and rebuilt for export.
     
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  14. Mooseman

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    There is a similar marked holster on another forum and the date under the flap is 1915 but the maker is unreadable.
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    Look very closely under the flap.
    The 1914 Commercial DWM Luger was not date stamped and it was Crown N proof marked.
     
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    I will trade him my stainless Mitchell Luger (including box) for it. Much newer and he won't have to clean it so often. I might even throw in a few dollars - say maybe $50? :D
     
  16. BSG 75

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    He said it has a 4 digit serial number and letter suffix. According to this 1914 Commercials are rare and have a 5 digit serial number.

    Real 1914 Commercials are rare and scrubbed post WWI commercials are more commonly seen. We would need to see a lot more pictures to know, but it is more likely to be the latter than the former.
     
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  17. jbett98

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    Here's an answer from a member on the GunBoards.com forum that asked the same question regarding no manufacture date found on a Luger.



    "Kale, It has been refinished. The date has been scrubbed. The high gloss blue isn't original, and indicative of being polished or buffed and salt blued. Original rust blue gives off a satiny hue. The barrel and receiver are a brighter and shinier than the toggle and frame, as is the side plate.

    The serial numbers on the bottom of the barrel should have a "Halo" around them. A fuzzy pale thin border created when the numbers are stamped after being blued, which up sets the metal and thins the blue around the edges..

    All if the edges of the receiver should be crisp and sharp. Note how the edges on the hump / island of the side plate are softened and rounded. The strawed (gold color) small parts are very shiney and the color is too bright. They should be very soft pale yellow. It's fairly well done, but not original.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

    Ron"
     
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    We had one of these stolen, from the Grandfather when he passed, someone knew where it was kept and stole it from his house.
    Only saw it once and was taken off a solider and brought back, was mint like this one.
     
  19. The Heretic

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    I would still trade my Mitchell for it. :D
     
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  20. Mooseman

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