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Well said! Connoisseurs will often pick something apart thoroughly, comparing and contrasting, deciding what they love and what they hate. I prefer to judge something on it's own merits. I think the Hi-Power was an excellent gun in it's time, and still a very good one. If I had to choose between it and a CZ75, I'd choose the CZ75, but that's not to take anything away from the Hi-Power.There was a time when people just picked up a pistol and fired it, they didn't waste a lot of angst on how the trigger compared to other guns, does the magazine safety detract from trigger operation, how can we reinvent the wheel, etc.
Right.I'd like to point out here that removing the mag safety from a Hi-Power takes about 5 minutes. Less for a skilled gunsmith. And you will see a noticeable improvement in the trigger.
Me too!I mis-read the thread title and thought you wrote 'Hi-Points'!
Probably a bit too much info, but that is why mine has a mag safety.I'd like to point out here that removing the mag safety from a Hi-Power takes about 5 minutes. Less for a skilled gunsmith. And you will see a noticeable improvement in the trigger.
A three pound rainbow launcher needs all the help it can get.I say it this way.......
That Hi-Power trigger ain't like a M1911's.
Enough said?
Pretty much how I view them. I've liked both Smith & Wesson and Ruger, but not for the same reasons.Most of the time personal preference comes down to whatever just feels right, a very subjective measure. For example, I've always liked S&W revolvers. I've shot a lot of DA Ruger revolvers, but they just don't feel right to me. Ruger makes a great gun and I won't knock them, but they're not my preference. For one thing, that S&W trigger... yeah, I know, what can I say- vintage S&W revolver triggers are an exception.
I'm a grandpa and I can say (with authority) that he used the "lemon" analogy because you were just a kid, but I promise you that in his mind he was thinking boobies….I learned to shoot on a 1972 Hi-Power and my Grandpa was a huge fan, and shooting them is a bit of a connection with him and I can almost hear him say, "Don't jerk the trigger, son, squeeze it like a lemon." & "there, like a lemon"I never figured out how it was squeezing like a lemon as my juicing of lemons was violent and involves cutting them in half and then using presses. Something that my young mind could not figure out how it related to shooting. In fact, I never got any of the lemon analogies. But he was an absolutely awesome grandpa, and the one who introduced me to guns, hiking, nature, etc.
But I digress.
needless to say, the hi power has intensely deep memories for me. Especially since I own my Grandpa's old hi power. When I take it out it is a deeply personal family heirloom. It is something I do not do often.
I shoot hi powers extremely well and that does not surprise me. I have shot them on and off for over 30 years. (I was first allowed to shoot it when I was 9)
But I hear a lot of hate for them and I get that they are more mechanically complex, than say a glock, but I do not actually understand what it is about. I know the magazine safety issue can worsen trigger pull, but mine is still very nice overall. (And has the magazine safety) So I guess the point of this rambling is what makes the Hi power to be viewed by some as a subpar gun. (And I have heard that from some old military guys) I get that 13 or 15 rounds and a steel frame is not everyone's cup of tea, but is there more to it than that. Is it a feel thing? I would by far and again, without the memories, rank it as one of the nicest guns I ever held.
My grandpa I know had trigger work and polishing done on it, so it may just be that I grew up with a perfect example. I just want to understand people's thoughts.
Disgusting!!!!I mis-read the thread title and thought you wrote 'Hi-Points'!
Knowing him, possibly, though he had an odd assortment of lemon analogies that perplexed his wife of 50 years as well. They didn't exactly work , ever. He lived in Western MC where lemons don't really grow. Knowing him, he would have also had a high probability of just saying boobies. He was hilariously smitten with my grandma into their eighties. Not particularly shy either.I'm a grandpa and I can say (with authority) that he used the "lemon" analogy because you were just a kid, but I promise you that in his mind he was thinking boobies….
Speaking of lemons, this was going down I-5 alongside my truck yesterday….made me LMAO for some reason.Knowing him, possibly, though he had an odd assortment of lemon analogies that perplexed his wife of 50 years as well. They didn't exactly work , ever. He lived in Western MC where lemons don't really grow. Knowing him, he would have also had a high probability of just saying boobies. He was hilariously smitten with my grandma into their eighties. Not particularly shy either.
He did explain that his original pistol instructor made him physically squeeze a lemon (whole) before he was allowed to pull a trigger. He also enlisted in the navy at 16 or 17 in the war in '43. How he got in the navy so early and graduated high school in a year is another story altogether, and one that is for a different place.
An extended strong side safety is one of the first mods folks do on older HI-Powers. Makes a big difference.I am a fan of the hi power, I have had several. The one thing I dont like about the high power is the minscule safety on it. My last would not stay on safe. I wish that John would have kept the one on the 1911. I will be getting another at some point in the future.
So if that one was bigger it would be less likely to move?I am a fan of the hi power, I have had several. The one thing I dont like about the high power is the minscule safety on it. My last would not stay on safe. I wish that John would have kept the one on the 1911. I will be getting another at some point in the future.