They can't go after handguns - SCOTUS decision is in the way.This needs to be defeated.
I thought it was going to be comprehensive, guns, mental health, violence in society. Oh yeah that was just BS talk there.
They are trying to divide and conquer, non EBR folks will get caught up in this madness also, they need to know that. If these gun grabbers get the EBR's they will then get handguns and "sniper rifles" next.
Handguns account for about 90% of all gun deaths, while rifles of all kinds only account for about 2%. I think I can here that drum beat already.
ANY gun owner not against this dog poo deserve to lose thier guns.
Great parallel between MADD and those pushing for firearm restrictions.I got this pic off a site about how MADD is just a neo-prohibitionist organization, but I think it works for gun laws too.
They're trying to tighten what is allowed for new handguns.They can't go after handguns - SCOTUS decision is in the way.
I don't mean to get off-topic, but yes I think the DWI laws are overly strict. If in fact no one is hurt or any property damage is done, the DWI charge has the harshest penalties as far as driving is concerned, even if you victimized no one. If I looked I could find an example where a man got pulled over 5x for DWI over a 33 year period, and on his 5th got a 25 year sentence from the judge, even though he never wrecked into anyone.Great parallel between MADD and those pushing for firearm restrictions.
I hate MADD because they pushed DUI laws that are overly restrictive. They would prefer prohibition.
I am also sure that a lot of people supporting these firearm laws would also prefer outright prohibition.
I actually hope SCOTUS addresses magazines and "assault weapons" as soon as possible. Only their decision can put the end to the blanket pulling contest.They're trying to tighten what is allowed for new handguns.
I wonder how a magazine restriction would be decided because magazines over 10 rounds are standard on many common handguns.
I really hope it doesn't come down to a Supreme Court decision though.
waver of gun control? It seems like there is a steam roller going over us, but will the public ever wake up to the extremes that are underfoot?<broken link removed>
Here is the bill that is proposed. Note that you can't sell or transfer high capacity magazines if the bill goes into effect. That effectively means when you die the high capacity magazines will have to be destroyed.
Start a thread in off topic and I'll answer. Let's not muddy this thread with that discussion.I don't mean to get off-topic, but yes I think the DWI laws are overly strict. If in fact no one is hurt or any property damage is done, the DWI charge has the harshest penalties as far as driving is concerned, even if you victimized no one. If I looked I could find an example where a man got pulled over 5x for DWI over a 33 year period, and on his 5th got a 25 year sentence from the judge, even though he never wrecked into anyone.
My dad was watching a Perry Mason episode the other day and some random comment to Mason was something like "The man blew a .15 when he got out of the vehicle. .15!? That man was approaching being drunk!" Now in a lot of states, even though the official limit is .08, the cops can arrest you for as low as .03, especially if you've already had one or two DWI's, and DUI's below .08 automatically get upgraded to DWI usually if you're a repeat offender so you can easily find yourself a felon even if there was no victim or property damage done. It's essentially zero tolerance, getting lots of people tied up in the legal system even though otherwise they are not criminal at all, or were well below the BAC where fatal DWI's start occuring regularly (which is around .17, not .08, let alone .03).
I could talk to you about the faults in our DWI laws if you want but that would have to be a separate thread. If I go for my Masters in CCJ, I'm thinking my thesis will be about how DWI laws always getting stricter is not saving lives on road ways, but ruining more lives and peoples from finding a job for finding employment.
DWI is a pre-crime if no victim or damage is done when you are pulled over for it. In another thread I railed against laws against pre-crime's because they are the very essence of big government and laws designed to put more US citizens in the CCJ system and deny them of constitutional rights and voting rights. Pre-Crime law's are one of the main reasons why we have such a bloated prison population. You can actually go to jail longer than a murderer if you're found with crack and a gun on your third felony arrest. 40-50 years ago, the Prison system was based on what you did, that got you in that position. These days its due to a combination of factors and what you COULD of done, that leads to long incarceration offenses, even when the person had no mal intent at the time they were stopped by police.