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H&R (NEF) 12ga Pardner firing pin issue

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by SICARIO, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. SICARIO

    SICARIO Oregon City Active Member

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    I picked up a 12ga pardner single shot H&R. It worked great at first, but now I seem to get light primer strikes every third shell or so. Makes me think there's something worn out, but I have no experience with these. Anyone else had similar issues?
     
  2. smearnoff5100

    smearnoff5100 Clatskanie OR Member

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    I know I'm reviving an older thread- What ammo did you have this problem with? two weeks ago I picked up some Estate target and game from Bob's in Longview for my NEF 12 gauge and had a similar problem. Every third or so shell wouldn't detonate. The primer appeared to have an equally deep punch as shells that did fire. I called Remington and they told me that specific ammo has a deeper, recessed primer and that it wasn't the first time they'd heard that ammo giving a NEF shotgun problems.

    I haven't found this problem to occur with any other ammo. I've shot Estate Super sport, Remington game loads, kent steel, federal target loads and no light strikes.
     
  3. netcarrier

    netcarrier Portland, Oregon Active Member

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    Hi Sicario,
    I would try some different kinds of of Ammo before doing anything. Also clean the Shot gun. Firering pin maybe hanging up.
    Tony Portland, Oregon Area
     
  4. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Put in either a new hammer spring or a heavy duty hammer spring.... $6.00 from gunsprings.com

    Sometimes springs only last a couple years!

    And yes, I have seen it allot in the H&R's!
     
  5. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    Don't overlook the firing pin spring. If it's weak or gummed up, it won't return the firing pin so the hammer can get a full "whack" on it. Be sure and clean the firing pin channel as well. Any goop or gunk that's accumulated there will slow the pin and can be a cause of light strikes.

    Don't overlook the role of the "small stuff" when you have a malfunction.
     
  6. SICARIO

    SICARIO Oregon City Active Member

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    I took it apart and it was pretty clean. The firing pin had a very slight chamfer on the round tip, not sure if that's causing any of the issues. I think I'll pick up a new hammer spring and firing pin and spring if I can find them. Anyone know where I can buy the firing pin and spring?

    As far as ammo goes, I was using wolf buck shot, Remington and federal bird shot, all with similar issues. I have a second h&r that I'll try some side by side comparisons, both in firing and inspecting of the individual components to see if there are any differences.

    Thanks for the input guys
     
  7. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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  8. netcarrier

    netcarrier Portland, Oregon Active Member

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  9. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    Something else that came to mind, check the rim thickness on both unfired and fired shotshells from this gun. Some break actions will develop some looseness at the breech that will manifest itself in the form of a thick rim on the fired shell. This happens when the pressure causes the breech to separate from the end of the chamber when fired. Given time and the rim will actually split when fired, giving a side blast much like that from a revolver.

    Check the locking mechanism for the action. When unloaded, see if there is any excessive gap between barrel/chamber and breech face. I saw this happen on some old "Clayco" imports years ago and had forgotten when I offered the firing pin/spring tip.