National H.R. 8 Universal Gun Registration Passes in House

[Mister Bisley]

The Universal Gun Registration Bill aka H.R. 8, being pushed by Pelosi, passed in the House of Representatives today, by a vote of 240-190.

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[Bealzybub]

Registration or background check?

 

[mortar maggot]

Registration or background check?

I am sure if there is a background check, they will keep a record of the purchase/transfer. So unfortunately we will get both.

 

[BSG 75]

Registration or background check?

Background checks. The bill specifically forbids using it to create a national firearm registry.

SEC. 5. Rule of construction.

Nothing in this Act, or any amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to—

(1) authorize the establishment, directly or indirectly, of a national firearms registry;

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hr8/BILLS-116hr8rh.xml

No companion bill will get through the US Senate as long as the Republicans have at least 45 seats (to allow for some defections) so this is not going to become law at this time.

Like the Republican House (back when they controlled the House) passing multiple bills repealing Obamacare that they knew were not going to pass in the Senate to appeal to their base, this is political posturing to appeal to the pro-gun control Democratic base.

 

[Mister Bisley]

Here's the gist of HR 8 from our side...which means the happenings without the sugar coating.

Take Action Against Pelosi's Gun Control, HR 8 & HR 1112 | Gun Owners of America

 

[Mister Bisley]

Background checks. The bill specifically forbids using it to create a national firearm registry.



No companion bill will get through the US Senate as long as the Republicans have at least 45 seats (to allow for some defections) so this is not going to become law at this time.

It's bipartisan.

 

[BSG 75]

It's bipartisan.

As long as they can get one or two RINOs to co-sponsor a bill they will call it "bipartisan" to make it look nicer. I didn't go through the dozens of co-sponsors of the bill but I'm sure >90% of them are Democrats.

EDIT: Co-sponsors:
227 Democrats (98% of co-sponsors) including all 4 Democrats from Oregon and all 7 Democrats from Washington
5 Republicans (2% of co-sponsors)

so the % that are Democrats was even higher than I thought.

 

[Mister Bisley]

As long as they can get one or two RINOs to co-sponsor a bill they will call it "bipartisan" to make it look nicer. I didn't go through the dozens of co-sponsors of the bill but I'm sure >90% of them are Democrats.

Good point. Draconian to say the least.

 

[Stomper]

President Trump has already said he will veto any such legislation, should it pass the senate and house/senate reconciliation process....

 

[Kruel J]

President Trump has already said he will veto any such legislation, should it pass the senate and house/senate reconciliation process....

I feel so much better now.

 

[Mister Bisley]

I feel so much better now.

That's exactly what I said to myself just after reading Stomper's reply and before scrolling down and reading your post.

 

[Kruel J]

That's exactly what I said to myself just before scrolling down and reading your post.

"Great minds........" or at least "Reasonably able to process logical thoughts...minds". Huh, doesn't quite roll off the tongue the same way as the first one.

 

[Stomper]

You two "great minds" DID notice the "stink-eye" emoji at the end of my statement, indicating sarcasm..... yeah?


Geez.... I'm currently stuck in Canaduh and still kickin' y'all's Butts.... eh!

 

[hatchj]

President Trump has already said he will veto any such legislation, should it pass the senate and house/senate reconciliation process....

We'll see...

 

[Mister Bisley]

You two "great minds" DID notice the "stink-eye" emoji at the end of my statement, indicating sarcasm..... yeah?


Geez.... I'm currently stuck in Canaduh and still kickin' y'all's Butts.... eh!

You....sarcastic?? No way

 

[The Courier]

The way I look at it is we already have a registry with the 4473. They just seem to skirt around it by saying we aren't in possession of the sale of that firearm the FFL is...
I once asked my previous employer if we could shred 4473's that were past the required hold date and I was informed we would not be getting rid of any of them regardless. I'd like to see the 4473 go away altogether but that seems like a pipe dream...

 

[Stomper]

You....sarcastic?? No way

Way, Dude..... way!

 

[American123]

The way I look at it is we already have a registry with the 4473. They just seem to skirt around it by saying we aren't in possession of the sale of that firearm the FFL is...
I once asked my previous employer if we could shred 4473's that were past the required hold date and I was informed we would not be getting rid of any of them regardless. I'd like to see the 4473 go away altogether but that seems like a pipe dream...

Agreed. The 4473 has always seemed like defacto registration. I've never believed at any moment for any length of time that information the government receives is not retained even when "it isn't"

 

[cigars]

You two "great minds" DID notice the "stink-eye" emoji at the end of my statement, indicating sarcasm..... yeah?


Geez.... I'm currently stuck in Canaduh and still kickin' y'all's Butts.... eh!

They need to build a wall!

 

[Mathias]

Registration or background check?

Doesnt this have to pass the senate? And Presidential signature?