Glock shoots left

[MikeInOr]

Rear sight sits .020" to the right of center now, with gets POA and POI to match. With the rear sight at center, POI was a solid 4"+ left of the POA. It runs…I suppose this is why sights are adjustable. Just weird enough to bother me

Yep, if it shoots POI = POA reliably then leave it alone and enjoy it.

 

[CentraloregonJ]

Expensive way to troubleshoot one of the most reliable guns made.

I'm not spending any money. I'll borrow some parts and see what happens. It just boggles my mind. Every other Glock I own shoots where the sights say they're aimed, this one shoots the same groups as the others, just left.

 

[Koda]

I'm not spending any money. I'll borrow some parts and see what happens. It just boggles my mind. Every other Glock I own shoots where the sights say they're aimed, this one shoots the same groups as the others, just left.

Except you modified the trigger pull on all your others (cant say I blame you...) so that means those guns will be more forgiving to any improper grip hold or finger press or whatever. Glocks arent the greatest triggers out of the box. I went thru this with a different brand when I bought another it shot worse but its trigger was also worse. I thought it was the sights but it was me, i learned to press that crappy trigger straight back consistently and problem solved. My finger pad placement was never correct.... yet Ive been shooting for my whole life too so im "experienced"
A good gun wont teach you to shoot a bad gun good.

My guess right now it its either you, or the rear sight. I lost track of which direction you moved the rear sight or how much it was off in the thread but if it needs to be drifted a lot off center to shoot then Id exhaust all possibilities its you before replacing parts.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

Just move the damn sight and be happy.

 

[DirectDrive]

Expensive way to troubleshoot one of the most reliable guns made.

Sounds like he has parts on hand.

 

[DirectDrive]

Just move the damn sight and be happy.

Do that and you'll never master the Glock trigger.
YMMV

 

[MikeInOr]

Do that and you'll never master the Glock trigger.
YMMV

In my experience people that pull to the left from bad form can't correct the problem by just adjusting the sites. I had a boss that could not master his S&W shield .40 even after completely replacing the sites. But he had deadly aim with his 38/357. I personally could never shoot my CZ75-D compact worth a darn. The ergonomics for my very large hand were just really bad. My inexperienced GF could shoot it better than me, so it is hers now.

The problem could just be an anomaly in the barrel or the slide. But if it is consistent and can be corrected by adjusting the sites why blame the shooter?

 

[Koda]

In my experience people that pull to the left from bad form can't correct the problem by just adjusting the sites. I had a boss that could not master his S&W shield .40 even after completely replacing the sites. But he had deadly aim with his 38/357. I personally could never shoot my CZ75-D compact worth a darn. The ergonomics for my very large hand were just really bad. My inexperienced GF could shoot it better than me, so it is hers now.

The problem could just be an anomaly in the barrel or the slide. But if it is consistent and can be corrected by adjusting the sites why blame the shooter?

Your first sentence answers your question. The OPs Glock is shooting 4 inches to the left, thats a lot for a pistol sight to drift out of the slide. I doubt any barrel or locking block is machined that far off.

 

[drstrangelove]

Best solution is sell the Glock and go back to something u shoot well. Blocks ain't for everyone. If you haven't tried a HiPower, give that a try. It's hard to shoot one badly.

 

[MikeInOr]

Your first sentence answers your question. The OPs Glock is shooting 4 inches to the left, thats a lot for a pistol to drift out of the slide. I doubt any barrel or locking block is machined that far off.

In my experience bad form, like knuckeling the trigger, results in lousy groups. Not tight groups off the point of aim.

I could not physically bend my trigger finger sharp enough to make my CZ compact work for me. My groups were bad even with very facetious aiming. So I didn't even try to adjust the sites. A bad group around the bullseye isn't much better than a large group 4" to the left.

Other shooters would not be shooting 4" to the left if it was just the owners form. As good as Glocks reputation is for producing reliable guns I don't believe it is impossible to have one come from the factory flawed... if the pistol in question was purchased new.

 

[Koda]

In my experience bad form, like knuckeling the trigger, results in lousy groups. Not tight groups off the point of aim.

I could not physically bend my trigger finger sharp enough to make my CZ compact work for me. My groups were bad even with very facetious aiming. So I didn't even try to adjust the sites. A bad group around the bullseye isn't much better than a large group 4" to the left.

Other shooters would not be shooting 4" to the left if it was just the owners form. As good as Glocks reputation is for producing reliable guns I don't believe it is impossible to have one come from the factory flawed... if the pistol in question was purchased new.

I could be wrong, I'm only guessing on the info given, He didn't specify group size or distance... 4in left is significantly off if under 10 yards. He had others try it and they shot the same 4n off but we don't know their experience with stock glocks. Many people adjust sights or triggers, but don't correct grip or press and go years as excellent shots, with those guns. It happened to me with a 1911, a recent new one shot bad, people told me to drift the sights, someone told me to learn how to press right. I did the latter and the gun shoots straight when I do my part, the trigger break isn't as nice but I learned how to shoot it. I learned something yet Ive been shooting 1911s for 30 years. This is something that never ends it seems, everyone does things different. I could be wrong, maybe his barrel is bad, but that odds are seriously low. 4in left is a lot to be the gun. Glock triggers arent the greatest.

 

[bolus]

 

[CentraloregonJ]

I totally get that my incompetence is the correct answer to this question coming from a random dude in the interwebs 99% of the time. Not even mad.

With that said, I'm not the greatest…I can yip a few here and there, but I'd like to think I'm not totally incompetent when it comes to the press. Pic attached, 210 rds from the 10yd line on 8" paper.

Locking block from a known good shooter installed. Curious to see if it has any effect tomorrow.

 

[User 1234]

If nothing else, send it to Glock for a checkup.

If that doesn't work, take it to a priest for an exorcism.


Seriously though, good luck. Let us know what you find.

 

[DirectDrive]

In my experience people that pull to the left from bad form can't correct the problem by just adjusting the sites. I had a boss that could not master his S&W shield .40 even after completely replacing the sites. But he had deadly aim with his 38/357. I personally could never shoot my CZ75-D compact worth a darn. The ergonomics for my very large hand were just really bad. My inexperienced GF could shoot it better than me, so it is hers now.

The problem could just be an anomaly in the barrel or the slide. But if it is consistent and can be corrected by adjusting the sites why blame the shooter?

A Glock striker spring is 70% charged when in battery.
The final 30% charge is done during the trigger press.
Therein lies the problem.
You have to deal with that 30% correctly and press (don't say pull LOL) straight back.
Dry fire with a penny or dime balanced on the front sight.
Or use a red dot sight to watch your POA.

 

[edzz]

Are you a left hander or a right hander? Makes a difference what side of the slide is up. Might try turning your wrist 90 degrees so as to have the part of the slide with the sights on top.


Handgun Shooting Positions

Just funning ya...

 

[titsonritz]

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Why The Pie Chart is Junk Science

 

[CentraloregonJ]

Well…clearly not an issue with the locking block.

 

[albin25]

Have you tried shooting it on the EAST side of the Cascades?

 

[DirectDrive]

Have you tried shooting it on the EAST side of the Cascades?

He IS on the east side.
Gotta use the "gangsta lean" over there to compensate.