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Germany Initiates Massive Gun Registry

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by DeadEyeMcGoo, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. DeadEyeMcGoo

    DeadEyeMcGoo Seattle Active Member

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  2. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    They didn't make a fuss last time, why would they make one now?
     
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  3. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    It seems the last time they started this stuff they ended with confiscation. Then started started killing people.
     
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  4. jfw

    jfw Clackamas county Active Member

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    It just amazes me to no end that good people are treated like criminals. Criminals in germany are still going to get guns and not register the ones they have!

    German gun owners must be licensed and pass strict safety exams to use their weapons. Police in Germany have the power to drop by gun owners’ homes to check that the firearms are locked up according to regulations. And few people are allowed to carry guns in public.

    This is crazy.
     
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  5. rkoreis

    rkoreis Vancouver, WA Member

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    Don't believe the propaganda pushed by the firearms manufacturing lobby. They love the Hitler took their guns myth because it sells more of their product. The reality is, Hitler liberalized gun laws. The link below is one of many sources I could cite.

    http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/67-harcourt.pdf
     
  6. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    ^

    LOL. Hitler liberalized gun laws for people who supported the Nazi regime, and banned guns from everyone else.

    Gun politics in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And from the article you linked:

    Hrm, people who are politically allied with the ruling party will have more guns, everyone else has no guns... sounds familiar. Oh right, they are pro-government-guns, not pro-guns.

    2A is mostly definitely regarding the rights of people siding against the government, not the rights of government footpads. The author is too stupid to even understand that distinction.
     
  7. boxer13

    boxer13 PNW Active Member

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    Your essay proves that Hitler disarmed Jews and Gypsies; basically anyone who wasn't a threat to the National Socialist Party. He just straight did a Machiavellian tactic ala The Prince. Give arms back to the citizens to gain their trust and show them that you care.

    But he decided that Jews and other "undesirables" weren't trustworthy enough to own and keep arms--of any type.

    So sure he liberalized them--for the select few--whilst screwing over the very people he planned on murdering by the train full.
     
  8. Trailboss

    Trailboss Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    A liberal article filled with liberal arguments.Take shower after you read it.
     
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  9. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    When I stood near the ovens in dachau and smelled the people burned inside I remember thinking. I bet they wish they went down fighting? They must not have beleived it could come to this?
    I fear for any group of people that get's it's self disarmed. Just one man with one pistol controled a cattle car or more of people. Just One Gun!
    You don't ever know what life may send your way? Don't give up your gun and think your safe because your no longer a threat. The founding fathers knew guns were important. Turns out they were right.
     
  10. 19 Adam

    19 Adam rural Clackamas County, Oregon Active Member

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    "In 2010, the latest year for which data are available, 26.3 percent of homicides in Germany were committed with a firearm, according to U.N. statistics; in the United States, that figure was 67.5 percent."

    But the homicide rate continues to rise, they just don't kill you with a gun, and you have no way to defend yourself while they beat your brains out with a baseball bat. Same thing happened in Australia when the government did the gun ban. Gun violence went down and residential robbery, rape, car-jacking and major assault went up dramatically. But they are correct...gun violence went down.
     
  11. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    Rather, don't believe this propaganda.
    From here on out this forum will be inundated with this kind of crap.
    Don't get sucked in.
     
  12. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    And the times of hitler wasn't very long ago.
    To me, Obama is trying to stay in as president till he grows old like Castro.
    I truly believe that's coming.
    You'll see
     
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  13. Uberdillo

    Uberdillo Oregon Active Member

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    Don't forget that THE LAST TIME, WE COMPLETELY DISARMED GERMANY at the end of WWII. If you're going to make character attacks against the German people that suggest they are no different, have not learned, or are not still suffering from the fallout of what Adolf Hitler did to a great nation, you are dead wrong you need to educate yourselves of your fellow man. They are good people, as much as can be said of our own neighbors. I'd argue that they never had the rights to self-defense nor the rights to firearms that we hold so close. For hundreds of years the citizenry of Europe have been living under kings, centralized power, and virtually or totally disarmed. Their guns yesterday were so tightly locked up and accounted that, to many, this probably seems like simply the inevitable centralizing of separate local registries.

    That said, I hold two facts to be self-evident about their nation currently: 1) The people have no pride in their nation 2) They live in a police state
     
  14. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    Gun Registration is an EU Mandate. I think they have until 2014 or 2015 to get it done, Germany is just ahead of the curve.
     
  15. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Add #3 to that: No Constitutional right to own a gun.
     
  16. Angie

    Angie Reno, NV Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You'd better come up with some more then. This site states that in 1919-1920 laws were passed in which Germans were banned from having weapons. Under the Weimar gov't, they had to have permits to own, carry or transfer firearms. Gypsies, or persons who moved around a lot, were not allowed to have a permit. The only thing about the 1938 law of Hitler's is that Jews could not get permits and the German citizen was allowed to have more than one firearm and 50 cartridges. They were still registered by permit only. Hitler liberalized gun laws, but they were still registered and many people who had committed no crimes were not allowed to have them. Furthermore, I cannot believe that a university published paper would actually quote a white supremacist book in order to support Hitler's actions. Oh, wait, it's out of Chicago. Makes perfect sense. Whatever B.S. you have to say to get your point across. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

    Are you actually stating that we should be okay with this registration and licensing and limitations of certain firearms as long as we are not in the group that the gov't wants to control? What happens when anyone who has ever seen a therapist cannot get a permit, or has to turn in their weapons (and there is a registry)? Or anyone who has spoken against the president or a congressperson (and there is a registry)? Hmmmm, Angie doesn't agree with Senator Frankenstein and wrote on a website that she needs to "just go away." That sounds like a threat. Does she have a gun? Let's look it up in the registry. Yep. That needs to be taken from her so she doesn't hurt anyone.


    NO REGISTRY. PERIOD.
     
  17. M67

    M67 NW Oregon Active Member

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    If you purchase from an FFL, the Feds and States like Oregon, keep those records FOREVER.

    It is de facto registration.

    That is why Obama, Feinstein and the other gun grabbers, want to ban face to face transactions.

    If anyone belives that the Gov, destroys firearms transaction records after 5 years, they are wrong.
     
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    For the record: Our government does not destroy data, it will digitize, organize and may even misplace/mislabel it, but it won't destroy those kind of records.
     
  19. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    And now they also want your medical records.
     
  20. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Then use the new Executive Order to create "medical studies" showing that those that want to or do own guns are mentally ill and are a danger to society are ineligible to own guns.