National FRT trigger legality

[Jcon268]

I think the "threat" now is monopoly by rare breed shutting competitors down and pending OR ban. Of course all us Oregonians have sold all ours in advance of the potential new law so that's good………..

We should be most concerned with the language they're using in these bills to accomplish their anti-gun fantasies. "Rapid fire activator" is pretty much used in such a broad context that a competition light trigger that can be shot faster than mil-spec could get swept in. The same way they used "could be modified" with the magazines such that nearly any magazine could be targeted. It's basically a matter of, if they don't like it, you just can't have it and they've worded these things accordingly. Because pUbLiC sAfEtY or some horsebubblegum...

 

[Catbox]

I thought I read they wont be grandfathered in, possession of the device itself will be a crime.


I'm surprised at the simplicity of the Atrius Super Selektor design, and not even a trigger device.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTqh_RdZOAI

The idea that they are willing to turn lawful people that purchased an item legally into criminals is horsebubblegum.

And I hate you guys for showing all the cool stuff...

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Another super safety mp5 video

View: https://youtu.be/l3sLqMU8nHs?si=B0fDo-bEun4NtohN

 

[kanak-attack]

Does anyone know if FRT or super safety are being made for the M249S.. also a few month ago I was able to shoot an AR with super safety, never heard of it at that time, I thought it ran flawless, only thing the push button was nothing I was used too. I spoke to the guy and he said he had to do some minor filing in order to run it. Not sure if you still need to do that anymore

 

[CountryGent]

Couple o' questions:

• If one was interested in a FRT for a retro AR, which part, exactly, should be acquired and from where?
• Has anyone made such a thing for a full-sized pistol (e.g., Glock)? There's some jibber-jabber in the FRT case about that and what I'm finding via Google is vague at best.

Thanks!

 

[Saladfarmer]

Couple o' questions:

• If one was interested in a FRT for a retro AR, which part, exactly, should be acquired and from where?
• Has anyone made such a thing for a full-sized pistol (e.g., Glock)? There's some jibber-jabber in the FRT case about that and what I'm finding via Google is vague at best.

Thanks!

theyre everywhere right now glock frt I started seeing them on ebay even. won't last long but for those looking you certainly can find them. I imagine some young entrepreneurial type has them at gun shows too.

and delta team tactical has proper FRT's for AR's, though they are a bit pricey at 5 hundo on sale

 

[Will_White]

Couple o' questions:

• If one was interested in a FRT for a retro AR, which part, exactly, should be acquired and from where?
• Has anyone made such a thing for a full-sized pistol (e.g., Glock)? There's some jibber-jabber in the FRT case about that and what I'm finding via Google is vague at best.

Thanks!

The Atrius Super Selektor looks good, I haven't used it but it works the same way as a super safety so you can use most aftermarket triggers. With the Rarebreeds you are stuck with the trigger it comes with.

 

[wired]

I just picked up a 32 caliber VZ 61 parts kit and I've got a friend who makes lower receivers that use AR parts and are FRT compatible.

Welcome to the future

 

[hongkong2]

I think the "threat" now is monopoly by rare breed shutting competitors down and pending OR ban. Of course all us Oregonians have sold all ours in advance of the potential new law so that's good………..

Wink wink...

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Couple o' questions:

• If one was interested in a FRT for a retro AR, which part, exactly, should be acquired and from where?
• Has anyone made such a thing for a full-sized pistol (e.g., Glock)? There's some jibber-jabber in the FRT case about that and what I'm finding via Google is vague at best.

Thanks!

GreyMarketResearch

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Kit i - 4140/Checkered/Straight

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I'd also get the heaviest buffer weight KAK makes and call it a day

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I just picked up a 32 caliber VZ 63 parts kit and I've got a friend who makes lower receivers that use AR parts and are FRT compatible.

Welcome to the future

vz 61? if so, does said friend make one in aluminum or steel?

 

[Wombat of Doom]

GreyMarketResearch

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Kit i - 4140/Checkered/Straight

greymarketresearch.net

I'd also get the heaviest buffer weight KAK makes and call it a day

Oh my thought was for 9mm. You probably want an h3 for .223. I had just been looking at the psa h&r doe model.

 

[wired]

Oh my thought was for 9mm. You probably want an h3 for .223.

If it's timed right the buffer only controls cyclic rate

 

[wired]

vz 61? if so, does said friend make one in aluminum or steel?

Nope just plastique

 

[Wombat of Doom]

If it's timed right the buffer only controls cyclic rate

Indeed. But I wasn't aware if a .223 direct impingement would cycle with the kak 10 oz. It's a significant difference. I will have to try that.

 

[wired]

Indeed. But I wasn't aware if a .223 direct impingement would cycle with the kak 10 oz. It's a significant difference. I will have to try that.

If it will cycle without the SS it will cycle with the SS if the timing is correct.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

If it will cycle without the SS it will cycle with the SS if the timing is correct.

Yeah, that's the part I am not sure about. Will it cycle at all? I haven't tried a 10 oz buffer in .223. I may have to now as I think it might make the super safety more fun in .223. My .45acp with a CMMG RDB and a 10 oz weight is honestly fairly slow and ridiculously easy to control.

 

[wired]

Yeah, that's the part I am not sure about. Will it cycle at all? I haven't tried a 10 oz buffer in .223. I may have to now as I think it might make the super safety more fun in .223. My .45acp with a CMMG RDB and a 10 oz weight is honestly fairly slow and ridiculously easy to control.

I'm sure everyone who has never tried it will tell you it won't work with a 10 ounce buffer

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I'm sure everyone who has never tried it will tell you it won't work with a 10 ounce buffer

I'm sure. Out of curiosity, have you tried that?

 

[Saladfarmer]

I'm sure. Out of curiosity, have you tried that?

From my personal experience... semi auto speaking, a pcc buffer is usually a little longer to cram in more weight for the tungsten weights. the added length will also impede proper cycling on 556, as the case size allows for a shorter travel on pcc's. it's going to short cycle at best on 556. the added weight, being 2x more than traditional H2 buffer weight, unless you're running a super hot charge (dangerously) that 556 isn't going to cycle properly with 10oz's of buffer behind it unless you have a really weak spring.
Which then leads to why would you want to have all that reciprocating mass on something that should be a nice soft shooting rifle when properly tuned?
Seems if you have to be weighing down the gas system there would be a better place to start like adjustable gas block or adjustable gas key on the bolt.
Maybe I missed something from 7 pages ago. Just my 2 cents