Poll: Does Sig Sauer survive as a company?

[wired]

Root cause, lack of a trigger safety. Glock doesn't have these problems, thats the difference between them.

How would a trigger safety stop a gun with a screw jammed into it, and the slide rattled around until the sear disconnected from going off

 

[1775usmc]

All right, then give me a breakdown on how all these what is a 10 guns out of 4 million or whatever are pulling the trigger by themselves or are discharging by themselves without anyone touching them root cause what is going on . Root cause analysis?

I can't. But just because I can't doesn't mean there isn't an issue. Does every 3rd gen 4Runner have head gasket problems…. Nope. But are they known for having head gasket problems. Does every P320 have issues… absolutely not. Are there some out there that do…. Yup. Can it be recreated not yet. Doesn't mean it's not real or possible. I'm not an absolutist.

With that said you just came at me about some police department who you claimed SIG said it was the gun that wasn't holstered claim. I just proved that to be completely incorrect. And I'm just some dumb jarhead. You can believe SIG all you want but in that single instance I just proved they lied. Video evidence that it was completely incorrect about the gun and the holster. I'm a nobody. But all of us nobodies can see right through the BS and gaslighting that SIG continues to use. Your loyalty to SIG is respectable, dumb, but I respect your steadfastness.

Stay safe out there.

 

[wired]

I can't. But just because I can't doesn't mean there isn't an issue. Does every 3rd gen 4Runner have head gasket problems…. Nope. But are they known for having head gasket problems. Does every P320 have issues… absolutely not. Are there some out there that do…. Yup. Can it be recreated not yet. Doesn't mean it's not real or possible. I'm not an absolutist.

With that said you just came at me about some police department who you claimed SIG said it was the gun that wasn't holstered claim. I just proved that to be completely incorrect. And I'm just some dumb jarhead. You can believe SIG all you want but in that single instance I just proved they lied. Video evidence that it was completely incorrect the holster. I'm a nobody. But all of us nobodies can see right through the BS and gaslighting that SIG continues to use. Your loyalty to SIG is respectable, dumb, but I respect your steadfastness.

Stay safe out there.

My video and pics showed the gun not seated or retained . In your video you think it shows it being retained. Kind of at loggerheads here.

 

[Will_White]

How would a trigger safety stop a gun with a screw jammed into it, and the slide rattled around until the sear disconnected from going off

it stopped the glock from going off until basically fully depressed.

 

[1775usmc]

My video and pics showed the gun not seated or retained . In your video you think it shows it being retained. Kind of at loggerheads here.

Show me your screen shot of it unseated. Unless you are talking about the one SIG posted with all the arrows. Then don't waste your time because they have been debunked.

 

[wired]

it stopped the glock from going off until basically fully depressed.

The screw didn't make the trigger go back all the way. In about six seconds, I can engineer and machine a screw that will make a clock go off. The screws a screw right

Show me your screen shot of it unseated. Unless you are talking about the one SIG posted with all the arrows. Then don't waste your time because they have been debunked.

Really it was debunked by who? What are their qualifications?

 

[1775usmc]

The screw didn't make the trigger go back all the way. In about six seconds, I can engineer and machine a screw that will make a clock go off. The screws a screw right

Really it was debunked by who? What are their qualifications?

Do you have eyeballs?

Wow brand loyalty is amazing. It even causes blindness.

 

[wired]

Do you have eyeballs?

Wow brand loyalty is amazing. It even causes blindness.

That's not an answer to the question

 

[1775usmc]

That's not an answer to the question

Same photo. Different angles. One proves something. The other doesn't.

Believe what you want. I'm bowing out of this discussion as I feel like I have gotten dumber than I already was.

 

[po18guy]

Well, THIS will help...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCW2cGxNpNI

 

[wired]

Same photo. Different angles. One proves something. The other doesn't.

Believe what you want. I'm bowing out of this discussion as I feel like I have gotten dumber than I already was.

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Oh, so YOU debunked it. Isnt that special. Top Minds.

 

[Will_White]

Oh, so YOU debunked it. Isnt that special. Top Minds.

Do your eyes work? You can see it even in sigs screenshot.

 

[Kruel J]

Do your eyes work? You can see it even in sigs screenshot.

Gaslighting, been happening for a while now.

 

[wired]

Do your eyes work? You can see it even in sigs screenshot.

Thats not the conclusion SIG came to and from the other pics it doesn't appear that way to me either.Agsin if you or anyone else has a valid explnation of the mechanics of what supposedly happened a handful of times that could not be replicated I would be happy the hear it. My personal opinion being that if something cannot be replicated it probably didnt happen the way your being told it happened.

 

[1775usmc]

Do your eyes work? You can see it even in sigs screenshot.

The top left photo is from SIGs bulletin. SIGs lies. But they do what they have to to avoid fault or responsibility. This is the instance that they side shifted afterwards and blamed it on keys going into the holster when he bent down to pick up the suspects legs.

I don't believe a thing that comes from them at this point.

Eyeballs don't matter. SIG says so. Haha

 

[Kruel J]

Same photo. Different angles. One proves something. The other doesn't.

Believe what you want. I'm bowing out of this discussion as I feel like I have gotten dumber than I already was.

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You can't fix stupid.

 

[wired]

The top left photo is from SIGs bulletin. SIGs lies. But they do what they have to to avoid fault or responsibility. This is the instance that they side shifted afterwards and blamed it on keys going into the holster when he bent down to pick up the suspects legs.

I don't believe a thing that comes from them at this point.

Eyeballs don't matter. SIG says so. Haha

You bowed out

 

[1775usmc]

You can't fix stupid.

No you can not. I'm not gunna put him on ignore. But I'm done with the back and forth with him. I'd have more enjoyment talking to a wall.

 

[Kruel J]

Win at any cost I suppose. LOL I'm with you I'm not going to keep playing these silly little games.

 

[1775usmc]

Win at any cost I suppose. LOL I'm with you I'm not going to keep playing these silly little games.

I got nothing to prove. Nor do I have anything to defend. We are watching the downfall of SIG in real time. It will be interesting to see this all play out. I think SIG will last but it's gunna hurt for quite a few years.

Dont worry I'll continue to post memes though.