Dillon RL1500 question

[ARFrog]

I have a Dillon XL650 and was trying to plan for adding a RL1500 trimmer and Lyman M Neck expander die for use in making .223 ammo for AR-15s. My questions have to do with potential placement in the toolhead stations - how do other users run tool heads?

Never having used one before, I was considering the following set up:

Station 1 - dedicated FW Arms popper/case centering decapper - OR ALTERNATELY - the Dillon Decapping/Sizing die
Station 2 - open
Station 3 - the RL1500
Station 4 - open
Station 5 - the Lyman M die

Question- does all this fit in these locations on a toolhead? I realize the trimmer is rather large.

Question - given that the #3 station is behind the front press frame, would it be better to move the trimmer to Station #4 so one can see what is going on and have easier access? If it is moved to #4, does this mean that the M die would need to be in Station #1 of the separate loading toolhead because of lack of room. And if so, does the case mouth need to be lubed for the M die?

Question - I realize that the Dillon trimmer die also resizes. Some online references refer to the full-length sizing die (Station #1 above) being run at 80% in advance of a full-length sizing with the trimmer die. Is this double re-sizing really necessary - a good thing - have any down sides?

Most of the online videos just seem to show set up of the trimmer alone on Station 4, so I thought I would see what @Caveman Jim or others are doing.

Thanks in advance for your comments...

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[Caveman Jim]

I have a Dillon XL650 and was trying to plan for adding a RL1500 trimmer and Lyman M Neck expander die for use in making .223 ammo for AR-15s. My questions have to do with potential placement in the toolhead stations - how do other users run tool heads?

Never having used one before, I was considering the following set up:

Station 1 - dedicated FW Arms popper/case centering decapper - OR ALTERNATELY - the Dillon Decapping/Sizing die
Station 2 - open
Station 3 - the RL1500
Station 4 - open
Station 5 - the Lyman M die

Question- does all this fit in these locations on a toolhead? I realize the trimmer is rather large.

Question - given that the #3 station is behind the front press frame, would it be better to move the trimmer to Station #4 so one can see what is going on and have easier access? If it is moved to #4, does this mean that the M die would need to be in Station #1 of the separate loading toolhead because of lack of room. And if so, does the case mouth need to be lubed for the M die?

Question - I realize that the Dillon trimmer die also resizes. Some online references refer to the full-length sizing die (Station #1 above) being run at 80% in advance of a full-length sizing with the trimmer die. Is this double re-sizing really necessary - a good thing - have any down sides?

Most of the online videos just seem to show set up of the trimmer alone on Station 4, so I thought I would see what @Caveman Jim or others are doing.

Thanks in advance for your comments...

I must inform you that I am not in the blue camp…. Yet…. I'm subscribed though.
@misterarman is your man to ask.

 

[ARFrog]

I must inform you that I am not in the blue camp…. Yet….
@misterarman is your man to ask.

Ok thanks, I will still think highly of you

 

[Caveman Jim]

Ok thanks, I will still think highly of you

Better not, I've got friends in low places.

 

[Twodogs]

I run mine with a sizing die at #1 and the trimmer at #4, take a break when the trimmer motor gets hot.

 

[misterarman]

I must inform you that I am not in the blue camp…. Yet…. I'm subscribed though.
@misterarman is your man to ask.

I actually have an RT1200. For the propose of these questions basically the same as an RT1500.
I have never run it on a 650/750. I have run it on the Frankford Arsenal x10 [and as of today I longer have either one] and I ran it opposite my FW Arms decapper, sizing die and swage hold down die for balance.
Not exactly sure how I will be running things on my RL1100 as I don't have a case prep toolhead set up yet.
I do know FW Arms [come on 1K21 brass] will be station #1 and station #2 will be swaging.

 

[misterarman]

I run mine with a sizing die at #1 and the trimmer at #4, take a break when the trimmer motor gets hot.

The Dillon trimmer runs hot. I called them on it and to check on maintenance etc. I could probably spend the rest of my life watching YouTube videos about it but, instead I made a 5 minute phone call.
No maintenance and it runs hot.
I was told "dont touch it".