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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Just Jim, Aug 27, 2015.
Treason.. You know what we used to do to traitors? We need to start that again.
Come take 'em
Just because Lurch signs a piece of paper does not change our God given rights.
1. There's a reason you're not President, John.
2. Come and get them!
3. I hope they send France!
Must be Obama puppets! Didn't this same "issue" come up a while back claiming that Hillary Clinton was urging/pushing/contemplating signing it?
Nothing but Obama puppets! Obama is the one that needs to go - AND GO NOW! He is determined to scr_w this country before he is out of office. Let me rephrase that.... scr_w this country even more before he is out of office.
Still needs ratified by the states and that won't happen. Oregon, Cali, Ny, NJ, maybe Maryland would ratify but I don't even see other blue states voting such a thing in.
Yup, a virtual succession has already been established.
is the text of the actual treaty available somewhere?
Is this the UN "Arms Trade Treaty" (ATT) that Kerry signed in September 2013, and that the Senate refused to ratify?
If so, the Senate refused to ratify it by a 53-46 vote against. Treaty ratification requires 2/3 majority.
Also, Congress allegedly has passed legislation that prohibits funding ATT in any form, including funding the UN Disarmament Office activities. (This needs corroboration.)
As I understand it, the real threat is that this treaty became international "law" on 24 Dec 2014. This gives Obama a basis for executive action contrary to the lack of ratification.
(Still looking for the actual text.)
Here is a link to a Wikipedia article.
Here is a link to a 14 Nov 2014 article in The Blaze that discusses ramifications.
John Kerry, what a hypocritical farce. We seriously need to change the type people that make up our government.
Thanks, I came across that info as well, I wasn just wondering if there was a new treaty the OP was talking about
John Kerry = Shizzzzz on a stick. Sign away you treasoness pile of excrement, won't be long and we'll be throwin your dumb azzzz over the fence like you did with the medals you didn't earn, deserve or respect. Makes me want to puke just typing his F en name.
Now that Oregon has registration and tracking of all guns bought and sold you can see why this treaty is going to take those guns from you. Just a matter of time and a few killings by crazies before they put the effort on full scale. Might want to vote other than democrat if you want a gun for self protection.
There isn't a democlap law maker out there worth spit, much less a vote. They are commie pure and simple. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER VOTE DEMOCLAP.
At the end of discussion; who signed what under what authority and who voted and how much funded.... blah blah blah.... - Our rights are ours alone and nobody can take them away by signing a paper.
I'm willing to go all the way to defend my rights. Are they willing to do the same to try to take them away from me?
Treaty's with foreign governments do not apply to US citizens on US soil. Been that way since the beginning of the republic and was most recently affirmed in Reid V. Covert ""this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty".
. The courts have consistently held that an agreement between the Senate and the President that does not involve the normal law making process does not apply to American citizens on US soil.
The President cannot use executive orders to override US law and US law only mesh's with international law when the laws have gone through the normal US law making process ie Bill in both houses to Presidents signature with court oversight.
Unfortunately no one pays attention in civics class so these threads pop up all the time. Its always hyperbole usually written by folks who know better.
Down on guns, but high on Botox.
Yes. Who gets the first shot off is the question.
Sick part of it is the number of people here in the forum that do vote for them.
They are pretty much a lost cause and seem to relish in committing hari-kari and dragging the rest of the people down with them.