crude steel target

[DirectDrive]

Are you guys sure you're using true AR500 rated steel? I've smacked silhouettes with thousands of rounds of 5.56 and I MIGHT have a few spots you can feel. But certainly no craters. Strange.

It could be that they're using AP rounds like M855 ?

 

[Kruel J]

It could be that they're using AP rounds like M855 ?

Could be. I'm just surprised to hear all the "cratering" going on with AR500. That has never been my experience.

 

[powermad]

Not 855 greentips, regular ol 193.
More of a dimple than a crater.
Almost looks like an arc burn.

They buff out with a rol-lock disk.
Stops doing it around the 120 yd mark.

 

[powermad]

Craters.
Top plate is regular 1/2" steel, .308 abuse.


Dimples, small craters with 5.56, 193
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[slimmer13]

I let my BIL shoot his .338 LI at one of my 3/8 AR 500 plates. Blew right threw it. At least it didn't crater.

 

[bionic knees]

everything we shot at it bounced off, except cheap bubblegum Barnaul .223 ammo. 100 yards with one of those piece of crap mini 14. wouldnt want to be the one being shot at!! 10 rounds in the magazine. dropped point of aim down a little, the other 3 hits were in the heart! not steel core. shocked the bejesus out of me

 

[DirectDrive]

everything we shot at it bounced off, except cheap bubblegum Barnaul .223 ammo. 100 yards with one of those piece of crap mini 14. wouldnt want to be the one being shot at!! 10 rounds in the magazine. dropped point of aim down a little, the other 3 hits were in the heart! not steel core. shocked the bejesus out of me


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Those look like steel core hits.

 

[DirectDrive]

It would be interesting to see some 7N6 hits on that plate.

 

[powermad]

 

[bionic knees]

Those look like steel core hits.

nope, American eagle and Barnaul fmj lead core. I was shocked

 

[bionic knees]

It would be interesting to see some 7N6 hits on that plate.

7n6??

 

[DirectDrive]

7n6??

Russian 5.45 x 39 armor piercing ammo originally made for AK74
Importation of 7N6 was banned not too long ago, IIRC.
There is still some of it around.

 

[bionic knees]

OP, do you have any idea as to the composition of the material it made out of? If not I'd surely start small and work up, don't want to return any Bullets towards the shooter.

no idea at all what it is made of leaned it up against a stump and let it have it, .22lr, .25 auto., .327 federal, .38 special, .357 mag, 9mm, all just splatted and bounced off. cheapest of cheap .223 just damned near blasted through. I am guessing the green tip steel core .223 will blow right on through.

 

[bionic knees]

Those look like steel core hits.

nope, not steel core. American eagle and Barnaul cheap crap

 

[powermad]

It looks to be mild steel.

Mom was right..
Speed kills.

Even steel cased .223 is moving fast enough to poke holes in it.
Small object at high velocity.
Stupid physics, gotta suck the fun out of everything.

You can see it pretty well in the slow mo vid.
On the AR500 with .223 you can see the plasma burning the steel leaving a pock mark.
At around 120 yds velocity drops off enough to not do that on mine.

The big slugs pock marks looked like they had been scarfed out with an air arc.
Lots of energy being dumped all at once.

 

[Stomper]

I think the real lesson from all the info in this thread…. is that napalm sticks to kids.