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Cougars (Mountain Lions) in Metro Portland? Yes, and Here’s Why!

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by daiello91, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. daiello91

    daiello91 NW Oregon Active Member

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  2. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    This raises an important question, why are cougars and bears regularly appearing in Portland, Beaverton, Hillsboro and other metro Portland areas?

    Because people elect democrats.
     
  3. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    Elections have repercussions. When a bunch of uninformed, legislate-by-emotion-not-fact idiots from the urban areas decided to outlaw certain forms of hunting and predator control, this is the result.
     
  4. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Then they euthanized that big cat pictured in the OP's thread! What'sa matter? Too expensive to transport him far enough into wilderness? Grrrrrr! Euthanize a politition!:mad:
     
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  5. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    We have cougars and bears and coyotes and deer and little bunny rabbits and raccoons and so on. Where you find deer in Oregon you will often find cougar. Those west hills, the Forest Park, probably contain a number of cougar and bear.

    This weekend I found bear scat in my driveway.

    I live on a mountain outside of Portland between Scholls and Newberg (I commute into Portland everyday). I grew up in Scholls some 50 years ago. We had cougar around the farms then. Never heard of any attacks here.

    Average Number of Deaths per Year in the U.S

    Bee/Wasp 53
    Dogs 31
    Spider 6.5
    Rattlesnake 5.5
    Mountain lion 1
    Shark 1
    Alligator 0.3
    Bear 0.5
    Scorpion 0.5
    Centipede 0.5
    Elephant 0.25
    Wolf 0.1
    Horse 20
    Bull 3

    Maybe we should hunt down and kill all bees/wasps, horses and dogs??

    I am not afraid of wildlife. I moved to the mountain to be "away from the things of man" and I like wildlife.

    I am also not one of those people who think we must kill all predators just because they might, in some rare circumstance, be a threat to humans.
     
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  6. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Interesting your list does not include Deer and Elk who kill people every year by standing in the road looking stupid.
     
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  7. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Moose kill/injure more people than grizzly bears

    Hippos kill more people than African lions

    More people die from having their television fall on them than die from shark attack.

    People fear what they are taught be fearful of by watching TV.

    I've had more than one friend wind up in the hospital wondering how they got there when they hit a deer while riding their motorcycles.

    I see deer several times a week when I come down off the mountain. I try to be careful in certain areas because I see them there more often. Yesterday saw one in one of their popular areas - they deerly (pun intended) love those apple trees.

    Cougar are often seen in the same area. Although I have not been lucky enough to see one yet - I am hoping eventually I will.
     
  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    A mommy raccoon mauled my little 13yr old 4lb dog the other day.. dang it! It coulda been way worse.. no guts hanging out or nothing but a severe limp for a couple days. I can't blame either one but only really myself though I did kinda act quickly.. leaping to one yard of the scene 1/4 second after actual carnage commenced with revolver poised in hand. Half urban here and at 0600, I didn't want to wake the neighbors really.
     
  9. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Why would I want dogs used for bear and cat hunting again? Hell I don't use dogs, so my averages of killing them have gone Way up. Yes cats are hard on the deer and elk numbers though.
     
  10. rdt

    rdt SW Portland Active Member

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    maybe all these cougars will scare the east coaster/portlandia type immigrants away?
     
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  11. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    At least the Ad Council has all those mountain lion commercials on how to be the vagina.
     
  12. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Running dogs for cats and bears wasn't just for the kill.
    Before the ban, (in Oregon) there was a spring "pursuit" season, where no animals were taken, just pursued and treed.
    This was done as a way for houndsmen to train their dogs.

    The result was twofold though. It taught the cats and bears that it was best to avoid the sound/smell of dogs and humans. As a result, urban areas and suburban communities had few if any threats from apex predators.
    The big critters learned, and in turn taught their young that dogs were bad juju, and to avoid those stinky, barking, baying critters.
    That is no longer the case.
    We are 3-4 generations (of cougars) removed from those experiences, and with the cougar population booming, fewer have learned to fear the scent of canine that is prevalent where people (dog owners) congregate.

    So the urban dwellers are reaping what they've sown, and I have no pity for them. Someday someone will spot a cougar stalking kids on their way to school, or standing around at a bus stop. Hopefully before the cougar takes his/her quarry.
    And while they may not attribute fido and fluffy's disappearance to one of the big cats, even though that is surely what will have happened, that's not necessarily a bad thing. That crazy cat lady in your neighborhood that has 12 or more kitties (that dig up your flowers and crap in your garden and leave muddy paw prints on your car/truck/boat) needs to have her little wildlife killers thinned out anyway.

    The irony is, that when the urbanites start hand wringing over the safety of their kids/dogs/kitties, they turn to the very people who's endeavors they outlawed 20 years ago, and pay big dollars to people that used to pay them for the "service."

    As someone said some years ago:
    "Common sense has left the building."
    All hail the age of "enlightenment!"

    Too bad their "enlightenment" didn't include the fable of "the Scorpion and the Frog," or "the Farmer and the Serpent" and about the nature of the natural world and its occupants.
     
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  13. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Of course they are, those are their natural prey.

    And African lions kill zebras.

    Humans probably kill a lot more deer and elk than cougars do.

    I don't kill all competition for game just because it makes more game for me to hunt. I don't shoot eagles because they kill fish.

    Predators are part of the natural balance of life.

    I leave them alone as long as they leave me alone. I haven't had one wild predator threaten me ever in my six decades of life, hunting and tromping around in the woods.

    Dogs or humans on the other hand...
     
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  14. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    The issue will sort itself out one way or another.
     
  15. GFO

    GFO WaCo, Oregon Active Member

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    OP" why are cougars and bears regularly appearing in. . . Portland areas?"

    Hopefully for population control:)
     
  16. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Because of access to birth control and a ready supply of eager young men.
     
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  17. Garg

    Garg east of portland metro Hold my beer..... watch this Bronze Supporter

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    Must have been a slow news day. Big cats are every where. They will run away from humans normally.
     
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    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  19. Oregonhunter5

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    Let me guess, you have no issues with wolves either?
     
  20. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Sport is always fun.. even if it's just strangling a stupid precious mountain lion to death with your left hand.