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"Converted" Saiga question.

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by nwo, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. nwo

    nwo Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Hi Kids,

    I have noticed a couple of 'converted' Saiga type rifles in the Classified section, and have heard of them otherwise.

    My question is: What are SAIGAS "converted" to, and what are they "converted" from?

    What kind of work is involved? Does the "conversion" make them better than stock, or what?

    Bye Kids!
     
  2. Minisocks

    Minisocks Portland Member

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    I just bought a converted saiga. They go from:
    sai545rightd.jpg

    to:

    SaigaDone.jpg

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    SaigaDone.jpg
     
  3. nwo

    nwo Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    So it's just a matter of changing the stock set......or?
     
  4. Minisocks

    Minisocks Portland Member

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  5. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    It's more then just a stock set swap out. To legally use you must make them 922R compliant.
     
  6. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    Right, what Ogre said. You have to remove the old trigger guard, to move up the pistol grip. And to feed from standard AK mags, you have to add a feed ramp, and alter the mag latch. That takes it out of specs for an imported semi auto rifle, so you have to replace a bunch of parts with US made parts, for 922r rules.

    There is a supporting vendor Stoner arms, that does a lot of that kind of work. He might know more.
     
  7. 9mmD

    9mmD sw wa Member

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    x2 talk to nbr. I got one from his group buys and did some home work and turned out ok.


    zombie008.jpg

    ..

    Mainly going from sporting import to the way it should be.

    zombie008.jpg
     
  8. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    Thats bad a$$, 9mmD.

    How's that stock? Is it solid? or does it get flexy, under recoil?
     
  9. Minisocks

    Minisocks Portland Member

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    I'm curious too. Trying to decide between that one or the galil style.
     
  10. 9mmD

    9mmD sw wa Member

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    dont know. haven't even pulled the trigger yet.. :)
     
  11. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    NWO take notice of where the trigger is in the before an after pic.
     
  12. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I got a saiga iz-240/ak74 TAPCOed out. Out
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    the box i was able to use normal ak74 mil. Spec. FULL cap. Mags. There is a differenche in the saiga 10 rnd mag and factory ak 74 30 rnd. Mag but as far as i know the saiga iz-240 is the only saiga rifle that doesn't need a ramp or bullet guide. If you don't use a bullet ramp/guide, once in a while you can have a FTF so i will fab something for my saiga 74 and make it more reliable. I just don't wanna drill into my rifle and install a bullet guide. Another thing is that the saiga rifles don't have threaded barrels so putting on a muzzle break is not an option unless you get a DPH muzzle break with an attachment pice that goes over your front sight housing deal so you can screw on the aftermarket muzzle break.
     
  13. Minisocks

    Minisocks Portland Member

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    That's not entirely true. Over on the Saiga forums several people with the 7.62x39 Saigas have found that under their shroud is a threaded barrel. The Saigas with threaded barrels seem to have military barrels not civilian barrels. Apparently someone found that their '09, 7.62x39, with receiver dimples, no barrel stepping, a PG hole, and handguard notches on the barrel also came with a threaded barrel (under the shroud). Stepped barrels are civilian barrels (they leave a crimp-like indent on spent casings indicating they're of civilian manufacture. Military barrels aren't stepped hence no crimp

    The only way to find out is to cut the shroud, of course, but at least some Saigas do come with a threaded barrel.

    Saiga forum thread for reference
     
  14. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmmmm well dang i wish mine was threaded.....
     
  15. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    If I could do it over again, I wouldn't have purchased the 7.62x39 Saiga.. I put WAY too much $$ into it, when really I could have purchased a higher-end AKM. but if I did it all cheap. (Tapcorizing) then I guess I'd just have a crappy Tapco furniture Saiga.
    Not to dog on all the Tapco lovers, I like K-var, ACE and Ergo.

    As for all the other Izmash "Saiga" calibers, of course they are all worth it!
     
  16. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    TAPCO is alright..... made in USA and decent.... things could be cheaper but tapco sure beats the cheap crap furnature you get when you buy a factory saiga. I really liked tapco's customer service. I was missing some nuts and bolts and I contacted them and they got right back to me and I ended up getting a free hat. I too love ARSENALs but I had a budget and if I had got the arsenal I be spending too much. So I got the saiga and had some money left to buy ammoand since I have a 5.45x39 cal. rifle, I can get 1080 rnds of mil. Surp. ammo for $120 and it is a sealed spam can. I used to pay like $150 for 500 rnds for 7.62x39 for my SKS.
     
  17. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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  19. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I think you really gonna love ur new toy keith lol a drum mag will be sweet too hint hint lol
     
  20. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, some of the 20-round drums are down to $120 (from $300+). I'm going to buy a few, if for no other reason to put some away in the event of a future hi-cap ban.

    Technically, this firearm is in the same 'evil' category as the SPAS-12, streetsweepers, etc. Considering that I also happen to be white, middle class, AND a veteran, I am most assuredly at the top of someone's Bad Boy list by now.

    Keith