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Concept: Glock into a .22lr backpacking rifle (non NFA)

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by idRATHERbeOUTDOORS, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    Okay, I know this would probably cost a lot more than it would be worth. But thought I would put the idea out there. Plus I think it would be cool.

    Glock of your choice.

    Buy a .22lr kit. (if you can find one)

    (this is the hard part) Find a gunsmith who can make a 16" barrel for the .22lr kit.

    Buy mako buttstock for glock
    Amazon.com: Mako Tactical Collapsible Stock for Glock 17: Sports & Outdoors

    Put it all together and bam a multi purpose defensive tool that can also hunt small game.
     
  2. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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  3. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    just buy 10/22 and be done with it. ;)
     
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  4. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    Got one lol
     
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    When you buy this product, your Glock will become a short-barreled rifle. You must first register your Glock with the ATFE using ATFE Form 1.
     
  6. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    How does a 16" barrel AND a stock make a SBR?
     
  7. Dan-Dee Sales Inc

    Dan-Dee Sales Inc Sweet Home, Oregon, United States Active Member

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  8. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Stupid NFA rules aside, I think I'd rather have one of those takedown 10/22s or an AR-7 survival rifle with the floating buttstock.
    Cant put a stock on a pistol no matter how long you make the barrel.
     
  9. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Had one of the originals, made by Armalite.

    Nice concept, terrible trigger. Would have been a
    more serious piece if it had been in .22 Hornet.

    I may still have the manual and a scope mount for
    it in a drawer someplace, if I haven't given them away.

    Jack...:cool:
     
  10. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    That was a Quote from the link the OP posted
     
  11. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    The product description is assuming you will keep the factory barrel length.
     
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  12. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Since when? Can you please provide the NFA section(s) that state what you claim? Stock + 16" barrel (with OAL more then 26") = Non-NFA.

    What about all the legal systems that are out there already that do exactly that?
     
  13. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    If you put the 16" barrel in before the stock, and remove the stock before removing the barrel, it is perfectly legal.
     
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  14. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    Can you convert back to pistol after it's been a rifle? I thought that was a no-no. Or maybe I'm reading your post wrong.
     
  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    For one,with my limited knowledge of NFA items,the barrel length does nothing to a pistol.Barrel can be as long as you want.
    But Mech tech claims their system can be changed back and forth from pistol to carbine.

    MechTech - Home

    So Nwcid,is that collapsible stock GTG or does it make a NFA problem? Without a barrel change,that is
    (notice the person I asked,since I am sure HE has read the rules)

    And I am sure a G'smith can make a 22 barrel for your project ,outdoors
     
  16. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    I believe it used to be a nono, Thompson Center started debate with the ATF "OK" on their encore guns. but the ruling only applied to that specific gun. But as far as I can tell and according to MechTech it is ok to switch it back.
    I read a while back that pistols can go to rifle and back, but rifles can only go to a pistol, and not be changed back. Meaning that in order to be turned back into a pistol it must have had to start out as a pistol.
     
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  17. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    If barrel length does nothing, then why have I spent $200 on several tax stamps???

     
  18. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    Barrel length does nothing to a pistol. i can have a pistol with a 30" barrel and it wont make a difference.
    The buttstock is what makes it a go-no-go as far as barrel length is concerned.

    IE pistol with >16" barrel + buttstock (now a rifle)= ok
    pistol with <16" barrel + buttstock (now an SBR)= not ok
     
  19. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    But we're talking about possible SBR issues- in which Barrel length has just as much to do as if it has a stock or not.

    have you ever shot a glock with a can on the end? the added weight isn't friendly to the glocks cycling, hence boosters. I wouldn't choose the Glock as a platform for a carbine as it is.

     
  20. idRATHERbeOUTDOORS

    idRATHERbeOUTDOORS Yamhill County Active Member

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    We're not talking about the factory slide or upper part of the gun though. And there are ways to lighten the barrel though it will add to cost. IE fluting or sleeves etc.