Colorado Communists, not done with gun owners.

[coyote223]

NRA-ILA | Colorado This Sessions Most Unconstitutional Bill to be Introduced Tomorrow

Colorado legislators are not finished devouring your constitutional rights. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse in Denver, state Representative Beth McCann (D-8) will be submitting legislation tomorrow that will nullify the right to due process for gun owners throughout Colorado.

Under this proposed language, your fundamental Second Amendment rights would hinge on the impression you make with doctors (of any sort, whether or not in a mental health specialty), therapists, counselors and social workers. These medical professionals could simply report you, your wife, son or daughter to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and have your name placed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) if they believe you pose a “significant risk” to yourself or others.

Under this proposed language, once your name has been placed on this list, you automatically lose the right to possess a firearm of any type for one full year. You may lose your constitutionally protected Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms all based upon the passing opinion of another. You receive no trial or legal proceeding where you could defend yourself and your inherent rights.

A parent who brings a child in for counseling, a person who attends a stress reduction seminar or someone who calls an employee assistance hotline after a bad day at work could be reported, without any ability to contest or answer concerns, and subject to one year prohibition from owning and possessing a firearm.

Compare this scheme to the revocation process for a driver’s license. Absent some unlawful conduct on the part of the licensee, the state could only revoke a drivers license, for which the licensee has no specific constitutional right, after a hearing proves that the licensee was somehow unqualified to have the license. This means that in Colorado, if this legislation were enacted, your constitutional rights would not compare in importance to the ability of being able to drive a car.

The unconstitutional behavior of anti-gun legislators in Denver can be tolerated no more. They are summarily destroying your hunting and shooting heritage and they are trying to take what is left of your Second Amendment rights in Colorado before the end of this legislative session.

We need you to contact Representative Beth McCann and state House Leadership TODAY AND EVERYDAY UNTIL THEY KILL THIS BILL and respectfully tell them you oppose any effort to steal away your constitutional rights!

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[1stklass]

Oh no, it couldnt happen like that! you MUST be wearing a tinfoil hat LOL

its not gonna stop with just Colorado and Connecticut and New York. Lets see, death by a thousand cuts? i think is what i posted in another thread, where those that were saying this was coming were being called tinfoil wearers

 

[tunus]

So your heath information is protected under HIPAA. It's interesting to see what the exact language of the proposed bill is. Currently, if the doctor shares your health information without your authorization, he is breaking the HIPAA rules and open to civil litigation. I wonder if this proposed bill will grant doctors immunity. If it does not, then I hope a firearm owner placed on that list by his doctor sues for enough money to make other doctors think twice before releasing patient information.

 

[Barefoot343]

I agree, I will say this as a general statement for not only this site but others as well. I remember many conversations/threads about the future of the second amendment being as you described, it was pretty unbelievable some of the comments and reactions. I am still surprised at the almost pure agreement and just the care-free attitudes to what's going on (legislation being proposed and passed to downright gun grabs), makes me wonder if there are more people paid from the left (or anti-gun) then I thought who post on gun forums who carry these views, how else can it be explained? People are entitled to their opinion but still it is a bit odd how you are on a pro-gun site supporting some of the things that at the VERY LEAST continue to sand away our second amendment rights.

 

[DMax]

The way this is going we will be the hatfield and mccoys between red and blue states. Time to move to texas. I really believe these lib states that are passing gun control laws are a cordinated effort with the feds.

 

[mjbskwim]

The way this is going we will be the hatfield and mccoys between red and blue states. Time to move to texas. I really believe these lib states that are passing gun control laws are a cordinated effort with the feds.

You do realize Joe Biden was in Colorado campaigning for these laws right?
Of course its conjoined with the feds

 

[DMax]

I did not know ole joe was there. I am talking about all the states not just Colorado.

 

[mancat]

You do realize Joe Biden was in Colorado campaigning for these laws right?
Of course its conjoined with the feds

Biden? The Prez was there.

Obama, in Colorado, to press for gun measures

 

[Oklahomie]

And here I thought they were done. Kind of funny how even the dems admit there's nothing they can do to stop shootings yet everyone still goes with it.

 

[Kevinkris]

this goes against the constitution and medical practices. constitutionally its obvious but the medical practices this would break is simply letting the info out without telling the patient and without their consent. not to mention the only medical doctors that should be able to make that call would be psychiatrists, who have already been part of this kind of reporting with the exception of requiring multiple opinions from other experts and a court hearing to defend your right and even that requires the doctor informs you that he is going to be making that report.

 

[1stklass]

??? :huh: Does anyone really think its almost over?

IT WILL BE OVER WHEN THEY HAVE YOUR GUNS. They have flat out SAID SO and you still dont believe it?

They said they didnt want gun registration, that you were paranoid, that what you had before the ban was still legal..... LIARS

You can keep them...... IF YOU REGISTER THEM WITH THE STATE POLICE WITHIN A YEAR.

 

[1970camaroRS]

Lawyers are tripping over themselves to line up in all of these states to make $$$ by contesting these laws. They will ultimately, eventually, be heard by the supreme court. Mark my words.

Not that any of that would matter anyway.

 

[quneur]

So your heath information is protected under HIPAA. It's interesting to see what the exact language of the proposed bill is. Currently, if the doctor shares your health information without your authorization, he is breaking the HIPAA rules and open to civil litigation. I wonder if this proposed bill will grant doctors immunity. If it does not, then I hope a firearm owner placed on that list by his doctor sues for enough money to make other doctors think twice before releasing patient information.

"is immune from a related civil action for damages or criminal prosecution...A person who knowingly acts in bad faith...commits a class 3 misdemeanor"

only medical doctors that should be able to make that call would be psychiatrists

The draft bills on states psychologist. A medical doctor vs ph'd in psychology. I wouldn't know if one is better than the other except for treatment, I would rather see the MD.

I suspect a few people with mental problems wouldn't want to see a mental health specialist due to the possibility of being banned from owning a firearm. If you were in a dangerous incident, would you see a counselor knowing that you could possibly be banned from owning a firearm?

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

So, let me see here. Any police officer that gets seen after a shooting (which is required in some places) would/should lose his firearm as a result of this, right? Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander and all....

 

[Glock Jock]

when the economy falls through the floor from everyone boycotting Colorado they are going to back-peddle.

 

[tkdguy]

Please do not confuse these Colorado Communists: They are democrats, liberals, etc. but they behave like communists. Remember it was the democrats and the liberals that voted them into office. I'm going to go out on a limb here. Are some of them, the rats from New York or the slim bags from California? Just askin ? I hope no one is offended, but I thought it was a point.

Correction: Would the choice of words for the California Democrats, be better to have called them "slim bags" or would the better choice of words be called "scum bags"?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Hopefully this will be taken to the USSC where they will get another chance to get things right before the big blowout

BTW stop worrying if you offend them, they hate you

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Bear in mind, communists are akin to cockroaches, they are never done, they must be exterminated or lived with, no other options exists. True story.

Kill a commie for mommie

 

[Kevatc]

NRA-ILA | Colorado This Sessions Most Unconstitutional Bill to be Introduced Tomorrow

Not only would this be a due process violation but would only make people LESS LIKELY to confide in anyone who might be able to help. Nothing like proposing a "solution" that would have the opposite effect from the intended.

The draft bills on states psychologist. A medical doctor vs ph'd in psychology. I wouldn't know if one is better than the other except for treatment, I would rather see the MD.

For true emotional/stress/instability issues a PhD in psychology would be the better way to go. MD's (family practice types) can recognize issues but would most likely refer out to a psychologist or psychiatrist for care that needed to go beyond any pharmaceutical approaches.

 

[Grunwald]

So your heath information is protected under HIPAA. It's interesting to see what the exact language of the proposed bill is. Currently, if the doctor shares your health information without your authorization, he is breaking the HIPAA rules and open to civil litigation. I wonder if this proposed bill will grant doctors immunity. If it does not, then I hope a firearm owner placed on that list by his doctor sues for enough money to make other doctors think twice before releasing patient information.

HIPAA is a. Federal law, so Colorado cannot make an exemption.
In addition to a civil lawsuit the person can report the individual who violated the law by sharing someone's s PHI data (personal health information) and see some hefty levied.