Chaos at the range

[wired]

I'm guessing oremike just wants to be around courteous people. You showed those girls! Good on you!

I used common range etiquette. I was courteous. I announced the range was hot. had adequate time to put on my hearing protection because its a good idea to do so and even waited a bit longer. I commenced to shooting at a shooting range. The others there who were oblivious to the fact the were at a shooting range chose not to put on their hearing protection . No my problem. Theyre at a shooting range. When you are at a shooting range do you go person to person to see if they are wearing proper PPE to your satisfaction or do you go on the assumption that people at a shooting range have some sort of idea they are at a shooting ramge and have some sort of concept how shooting ranges work. ?

 

[Koda]

"Range Hot, you have 15 seconds to comply"

View: https://youtu.be/acdABwYJqks?si=5zBNYEqipGM_HYtw

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Yes ...it was a shooting range.
Shooting is to be expected.
Eye and ear protection ...is also to be expected.

Yes...announcing that you are going to shoot is a good thing / expected thing to do.

Yes...when at a shooting range it is expected that you pay attention to your surroundings.
As in what other people are doing around you. / what is going on around you.

However...
That last bit especially , is something that you cannot control , in regards to how other people do things
And...
When arriving at a range and you see people there...
You are the newcomer...it might be wise for you to be aware of what is going on around you...
And whether or not what you want to do is the right / correct thing to do at that moment...
Even if....what you want to do is indeed the expected thing at that place and time.

While it ain't required that you to do more than commonly expected range etiquette / range rules ...
Doing a bit more than those , when the situation could be better from it ...doesn't hurt anyone...
And may make something that could have been a bad experience / unpleasantness ...a not even a worry about it.

Please note that the above is just how I view things...and not how anyone else needs to be.
Just posted as something to consider.
Andy

 

[JedB]

So when I yelled the range was hot that wasn't telling them I would be shooting?

Huge difference between yelling "range is hot" and going over to someone to interact. Not everyone at a range is aware of what that could mean, especially if 'distracted.'

Walks over: "Hey, all; Just wanted to let you know I'm going to be shooting shortly."

I no longer have the expectation that people (in general) are paying attention to anything without specifically getting their attention.

carry on with your indignant righteousness though.
my $0.02

 

[mhayd93]

A range is a place where people should be serious, well-prepared, aware of both their own safety/that of others, and well-versed in the the common etiquette and practices that are conducive to said safety.

It is not a place to sit around and hang out like it is a public park or swimming pool. If someone indicates the range is hot and gives you 15 seconds to put on hearing protection, that is plenty courteous. If they don't understand what that means, they don't belong on the range.

I think the outcome of this scenario was probably the best way for these girls to learn a valuable lesson; I'd be shocked if they go to a range and behave the same way again when people show up and actually start shooting!

 

[Nosferatu]

"Range Hot, you have 15 seconds to comply"

View: https://youtu.be/acdABwYJqks?si=5zBNYEqipGM_HYtw

How bubbleguming long does it take you to put earpro on, especially at the range, where the expectation is that something very loud could happen? Chances are they are within arms reach or even on your person (ie: around your neck). If they aren't, well, that's not very good planning on your part.

You keep berating this 15 second point, but go time yourself. If it takes you more than 15 seconds to put earpro on, then you should practice in front of a mirror for a bit.

 

[wired]

Huge difference between yelling "range is hot" and going over to someone to interact. Not everyone at a range is aware of what that could mean, especially if 'distracted.'

"Hey, all; Just wanted to let you know I'm going to be shooting shortly."

I no longer have the expectation that people (in general) are paying attention to anything without specifically getting their attention.

carry on with your indignant righteousness though.
my $0.02

No righteousness at all. I don't subscribe to the right or wrong philosophy. People do what they want to do. They can have some situational awareness if it suits them to do so. I followed the rules of range etiquette to the tee. The fact some chose to ignore their environment is not my problem.

 

[wired]

How bubbleguming long does it take you to put earpro on, especially at the range, where the expectation is that something very loud could happen? Chances are they are within arms reach or even on your person (ie: around your neck). If they aren't, well, that's not very good planning on your part.

You keep berating this 15 second point, but go time yourself. If it takes you more than 15 seconds to put earpro on, then you should practice in front of a mirror for a bit.

Watch the second dial on a watch move. In 15 seconds I could get dressed.

 

[Indy62]

How bubbleguming long does it take you to put earpro on, especially at the range, where the expectation is that something very loud could happen? Chances are they are within arms reach or even on your person (ie: around your neck). If they aren't, well, that's not very good planning on your part.

You keep berating this 15 second point, but go time yourself. If it takes you more than 15 seconds to put earpro on, then you should practice in front of a mirror for a bit.

It takes my wife at least 5 minutes to find shoes. Another 10 minutes to use the bathroom. Another four minutes to find her purse. And finally another four minutes to do some secret thing only women know about.

then we get rolling..

Only to discover she forgot something..

And her daughter...well...that's a whole other story.

Not everyone is Army Airborne

 

[TTSX]

You were at a gun range. They are implicitly loud places. It's like getting mad that people drink at a bar.

I've told the story before, however I'll give a brief telling again: I was shooting my unsuppressed .50BMG at a member only range and a group of people that showed up AFTER me were cranky about that because they didn't bring ear protection. They had planned to shoot suppressed. Well, you gotta prepare for someone bringing a .50 because it's a damn gun range. Guns are loud.


I'm with wired 100% even though I can understand the other side

 

[Indy62]

I don't subscribe to the right or wrong philosophy.

Yep..called that. Keep talking..

 

[Nosferatu]

It takes my wife at least 5 minutes to find shoes. Another 10 minutes to use the bathroom. Another four minutes to find her purse. And finally another four minutes to do some secret thing only women know about.

then we get rolling..

Only to discover she forgot something..

And her daughter...well...that's a whole other story.

Not everyone is Army Airborne

Completely different situation.

These people were at a shooting range. Loud things happen there.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Not everyone is Army Airborne

Yeah life is rough when you are just a leg ....
( Kidding here....I was Airborne as well )
Andy

 

[Joe13]

9mm is far superior to 45ACP

 

[Member 45541]

It takes my wife at least 5 minutes to find shoes. Another 10 minutes to use the bathroom. Another four minutes to find her purse. And finally another four minutes to do some secret thing only women know about.

then we get rolling..

Only to discover she forgot something..

And her daughter...well...that's a whole other story.

Not everyone is Army Airborne

This is the best post I've read all year. Hands down!!

 

[Certaindeaf]

I always tell everyone that the gravity is on, just so they know.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

9mm is far superior to 45ACP

Oh yeah.....
Well...I'd agree with you ..but then we'd both be wrong...
(Kidding here )
Andy

 

[Indy62]

9mm is far superior to 45ACP

.40 is far superior to both when you factor in terminal ballistics and cost

 

[Joe13]

Lumpy cream of wheat is better then oatmeal.

 

[TTSX]

9mm is far superior to 45ACP