Chaos at the range

[wired]

They could go to a bowling alley.

Much quieter there

 

[galvweld]

So you intentionally exposed them to permanent hearing loss to teach them a lesson on range etiquette...?

Just asking, how long would be appropriate, in your opinion?
And where does personal responsibility begin?

 

[galvweld]

Spent much of my life waiting for my girls and wife to get ready. They were ready when "they" were ready.

 

[msgriff]

 

[wired]

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I remember shooting with my dad. We ALWAYS used 45 ACP cartridges as ear plugs

 

[Koda]

Just asking, how long would be appropriate, in your opinion?
And where does personal responsibility begin?

15 second compliance is BS. Its not about a countdown, its about common courtesy giving everyone a chance to get their earpro on.

Personal responsibility begins when you assure your actions are safe. The OP -knew- they didn't have earpro on and intentionally exposed them to permanent hearing loss. That is more than just unsafe.

 

[wired]

15 second compliance is BS. Its not about a countdown, its about common courtesy giving everyone a chance to get their earpro on.

Personal responsibility begins when you assure your actions are safe. The OP -knew- they didn't have earpro on and intentionally exposed them to permanent hearing loss. That is more than just unsafe.

No . I knew they did not have ear plugs in when I gave warning the range was hot. I did not have my hearing protection in at that point either. They had plenty of time to do whatever they thought appropriate and chose to completely ignore the warning when I'm assuming they knew where they were, at a firing range. Do you inspect everyone for whatever hearing protection you think they should be using at the range?

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

I side with @wired
He gave notice range was going hot. What is the proper wait time if 15-39 seconds is too little? 10 minutes, 20, 30?! How much time do you have in your day to wait on others for them to stop walking around like dunces and get their sht together? It's his range time too.. he shouldn't be on their clock.
It's a range for bubblegums sake, not a hang out spot to chit-chat without a care in the world. There will be loud noises, he ensured no one was down range before firing, anything else is on them.

Their lack of ear pro, their lack of range experience and etiquette is not his problem. If it were, he'd be there all day asking for permission to simply use the range while waiting for them to be prepared.. meanwhile I highly doubt they are providing the same courtesy. It's a range, they should know what is required of them and what to pay attention to. Otherwise, they have no business being there.

 

[Xmark1]

When I call "Range is hot" and see a neighbor without earpro, I usually ask them nicely if they are good for me to shoot, as a courtesy. People usually nod as in good to go or say wait a minute while the apply earpro. Sometimes I see them putting on protection and I will wait for them to finish.

A couple times a shooter has come up next to or behind me and fired while I did not have my ears on. I was not happy and let them know. It's just common courtesy. Also, I try to not piss off people at the range - they have guns.

 

[galvweld]

15 second compliance is BS. Its not about a countdown, its about common courtesy giving everyone a chance to get their earpro on.

Personal responsibility begins when you assure your actions are safe. The OP -knew- they didn't have earpro on and intentionally exposed them to permanent hearing loss. That is more than just unsafe.

I can assume you are concerned not only about the hearing protection. Bet you think more importantly, he hurt their feelings.

You still didn't give an answer for how much time you would be willing to call safe?

 

[kmk1012]

The real question is what ensued afterwards. Did they put earpro on or leave? Did the situation escalate?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

IMO the only time you should not expect gunfire at the range (assuming you aren't alone) is when the range is cold. Even then if noobs are shooting I would still have earpro on. It's a gun range. People shoot there.

 

[Koda]

No . I knew they did not have ear plugs in when I gave warning the range was hot. I did not have my hearing protection in at that point either. They had plenty of time to do whatever they thought appropriate and chose to completely ignore the warning when I'm assuming they knew where they were, at a firing range. Do you inspect everyone for whatever hearing protection you think they should be using at the range?

You changed your story...

Did they have earpro on when you fired?

Nothing. Totally oblivious to where they were

 

[Indy62]

So it seems to me you go to your regular shooting lane and see a bunch of people you don't know and probably don't care for..right off the bat..I mean they weren't your type..right?

So now you're gonna teach them a lesson and push their buttons..you know..cause you don't like them..because it's "your range"

And whisper a 15 second warning. Why don't you just admit that's what you did. BS move man.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

So it seems to me you go to your regular shooting lane and see a bunch of people you don't know and probably don't care for..right off the bat..I mean they weren't your type..right?

So now you're gonna teach them a lesson and push their buttons..you know..cause you don't like them..because it's "your range"

And whisper a 15 second warning. Why don't you just admit that's what you did. BS move man.

He did not say whisper. He said "as loud as he could".

 

[DB is Here]

Not sure what the issue here is but let's keep it friendly please.

 

[Indy62]

He did not say whisper. He said "as loud as he could".

If I said something as loud as I could..they would hear it. And I would expect their attention immediately. If not, I'd go over and have a talk.

 

[wired]

The real question is what ensued afterwards. Did they put earpro on or leave? Did the situation escalate?

They went way off to the side . It was their boyfriends shooting who laughed at them

 

[wired]

If I said something as loud as I could..they would hear it. And I would expect their attention immediately. If not, I'd go over and have a talk.

They were 8 feet away

 

[wired]

So it seems to me you go to your regular shooting lane and see a bunch of people you don't know and probably don't care for..right off the bat..I mean they weren't your type..right?

So now you're gonna teach them a lesson and push their buttons..you know..cause you don't like them..because it's "your range"

And whisper a 15 second warning. Why don't you just admit that's what you did. BS move man.

No. I had no care at all to teach anyone a lesson . I gave adequate warning which they chose to ignore.