Carry a curio?

[Outpost75]

My fuzzy memory on those is the few people that have gotten them have been underwhelmed with the quality and reliability, especially when you consider the price

I heard the same. LGS sold a few, but had to send several back for defects. Not aware of the particulars. Our family heirloom 1920 Type III has seen WW2, Korean and LE service. It has been solid. The only repairs have been service kit spring replacements from Wolf.

 

[Capn Jack]

Not long ago I was looking for a very lightweight carry revolver for day hikes and such. I was very tempted by a smaller format Webley Mark Ⅳ in .32 S&W Long I found on Gunbroker:

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However, as I was looking for something in one of the "magnum" cartridges (e.g., .32 H&R Magnum, .327 Federal Magnum) and since older guns are a bit like rolling the dice, I went with a contemporary Smith & Wesson revolver made of alloys. (Though I kind of kick myself for not bidding on the little top-break, the Smith is working out so far. Including a vigorous walk today.)

Between that and a recent thread in which various C&R carry pieces have been mentioned, it got me to thinking of the topic. Using the standard definition in these here United States ...

1. Firearms manufactured at least 50 years prior the current date, but not including replicas thereof;
2. Firearms certified by the curator of a municipal, state, or federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
3. Firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, or bizarre or from the fact of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

Any C&R handguns you carry on such outings? Thanks for sharing.

To answer my own question, off the top of my head, the only one that comes to mind that I might is a Webley Ⅳ in .38/200 (or .38 S&W). I haven't carried it afield, but is rather a (relatively) quiet, low-recoil revolver I sometimes shoot outside home office.

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Over 50 years, I guess that makes me and my S&W .38Spl. Combat Masterpiece "C&Rs

 

[CountryGent]

Though I have not carried on hike yet, this one hits all the points. Smith & Wesson 10—6 in .38 Special. What I like about the revolver, beyond the bluing, is it is surprisingly (even shockingly) accurate. It may be over 50 years old and with sights that are just OK, but, dang, it is a laser beam in the straight shooting department. Little and unassuming, but quick to draw, and puts a 158-grain pill where it needs to go; I reckon that fits the bill.

 

[orygun]

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Though I have not carried on hike yet, this one hits all the points. Smith & Wesson 10—6 in .38 Special. What I like about the revolver, beyond the bluing, is it is surprisingly (even shockingly) accurate. It may be over 50 years old and with sights that are just OK, but, dang, it is a laser beam in the straight shooting department. Little and unassuming, but quick to draw, and puts a 158-grain pill where it needs to go; I reckon that fits the bill.

The only bad part of these guns is the sights. Mine is a 10-10 and the bluing is still very nice. It sure could use a more visible front sight, though.

 

[USMCEOD]

I used to carry an old British surplus Browning Hi-power in 9mm.

It was one of the WWII vintage Hi-powers that were made by the John Inglis factory in Canada during the war that apparently were still serving with the British Army until the 1980s.

I found it to be a very durable, reliable, accurate and well-made weapon. It also had a fairly slim profile that made it acceptable as a carry firearm. I liked it quite a lot, and actually had never really even considered it to be the older curio that it actually was.

So, yeah; I guess I carried a curious. Better than a sharp stick, and what I could afford at the time.

Semper Fi,

Bryan.

 

[Oro]

Sometimes I carry this bobbed Victory revolver. It's a sister-gun to the one Oswald used in Dallas, from Seaport Traders - a converted .38 Special snub. Usually I'll carry a Chief Special type J-frame, but with looser winter clothing I'll take this for nostalgia.

 

[coop44]

I carried a Chinese Makarov, and a cz52 for years. I find it's more about the shooter than the weapon. My current carry is a s&w model 49, transitioning to something else soon.

 

[Outpost75]

I have several other old Colts and S&Ws which get carried occasionally.

 

[Nosferatu]

 

[gmerkt]

Star BM made between 1972 and 1975

It would've been nice if the Star marketing people would've done their naming homework for things they planned to sell to their major market. Like the Models BS and BM.

Another one that bugs me is the Toyota TRD.

 

[Nosferatu]

Another one that bugs me is the Toyota TRD.

Not into the Development of Racing by ToYoda?

As the former owner of an '02 Tundra, I can sympathize.

 

[ma96782]

RE : Posts #14 and #15.......Drop Safety
IMHO.....
Based on my own son's recent AD experience (with his M1911-style of firearm).
Yup.....
And so, in other words, add the M1911 to that list.
Along with any pistol without a spring to help with holding back the firing pin. If the firearm were to be dropped or if the slide were to be released on a chambered round or while stripping off a round from the magazine.

Rrrrright......
Ever notice a firing pin mark on the primer of an unexpended round (after it was loaded into your CCW)?

OMG!!!!!

So anyway......
If..... it could happen???
It might.

Then.....better yet.....do your "loading" procedure while pointing your muzzle into a "safety can" (weapons clearing box).

Aloha, Mark

PS......
While this next blurb has no relation with a "mechanical malfunction". IMHO, it was more like an operator error. Yeah....the LEO swore that he was NOT on the trigger.
Anyway......
I can still remember the AD in the squad room many years ago.

The Department had bought and installed "safety cans" for the LEOs loading their pistol. Cough, cough.....YES, ADs continued (though into the "safety can").

 

[ma96782]

BTW.....some extras on the subject.

View: https://youtu.be/1DcsW2JfaQ8?si=8yHGiGw7DC2XzN0Y

Then........

View: https://youtu.be/H7m4TkCvbgo?si=VNnhyTEkJXKXWwIA

View: https://youtu.be/xK6KMeosGF8?si=Ms1xZZXPYNd2KtG1


Mind you that......there are different brands, styles and they come at different price points.

Aloha, Mark

PS.....the "drop safe" pistol.

View: https://youtu.be/RMTe87kATmU?si=KsHc4yX6fgRzGWLO

 

[orygun]

Another one that bugs me is the Toyota TRD.

I always read that with a u in it...

 

[STUKA]

I always read that with a u in it...

So I'm NOT the only one!!

 

[CountryGent]

To answer my own question, off the top of my head, the only one that comes to mind that I might is a Webley Ⅳ in .38/200 (or .38 S&W). I haven't carried it afield, but is rather a (relatively) quiet, low-recoil revolver I sometimes shoot outside home office.

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On that note, I see Buffalo Bore offers a .38 S&W load that is OK for Webleys; 125 gr. Hard Cast FN @ 1,000 fps. Not bad.

 

[Outpost75]

On that note, I see Buffalo Bore offers a .38 S&W load that is OK for Webleys; 125 gr. Hard Cast FN @ 1,000 fps. Not bad.

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I tested that in a couple of my revolvers.
Colt 2" PP with B-C gap 0.006" - 952 fps, 6 Sd
Colt 4" PP with B-C gap 0.007" - 966 fps, 5 Sd
S&W 4" M33 w/ B-C gap 0.005" - 1017 fps, 8 Sd
POI AVG 6" LOW AT 25 YDS, 2" LOW AT 7 YDS
Clean burning. Accurate. POI close is enough if you just blot out target with the front sight.

 

[JamesAllen1]

I have carried a Webley Bull Dog with my own black powder loads and solid lead bullets. Effective deterrence against coyotes that lust after my dog walking conpanion.

 

[CountryGent]

I have carried a Webley Bull Dog

Oh my! Have a pic of this one? Is in .455 or some other cartridge?

 

[JamesAllen1]

In .450 caliber. It's hidden in the back of the safe so here's a fellow member of the pack as a place holder.