Can you help me identify this lantern?

[GOG]

A friend asked me to see what I could find out about this lantern. He thinks it's worth some money and it may be, but there's a lot of counterfeit copper and brass out there so maybe someone here can help with identification and value if possible.
The name Seahorse and "Masthead" on the lantern would seem to indicate a nautical lantern but I don't really know.
What do you think?

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[partsed]

Ship's Masthead Lantern by Seahorse

 

[GOG]

Thank you, it's much appreciated. I'll pass it on.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Very neat lantern...
Be nice to find out if its a replica or a original.
Thanks for posting.
Andy

 

[GOG]

My fiance's nephew spotted it and asked me if it's worth anything. Maybe he figures because I'm old I know about everything that's old.

 

[Mark W.]

Well aside from the name the two lanterns are very different so the price being asked for the one could have nothing to do with the value of the other.

My dad collected railroad lanterns in his stuff is a Coleman lantern that if it is a Great Northern Railroad lantern its worth 5 times and much as if its the same lantern that great uncle joe used camping.

 

[Mark W.]

Copper Antique Maritime Lamps and Lighting | eBay

 

[GOG]

I'm asking for my fiance's nephew. He took the pics and the lantern is somewhere up North of me so I can't inspect it. Otherwise I'd have a pretty good idea.

 

[CoastRange57]

Reproduction all the way.

 

[GOG]

The hasp above the nameplate looks fake or is it me?

 

[Mikej]

It looks too pristine to me. Curious to see what you find out though. You'd really have to have some decent pictures. Close ups, without camera shake. Some pics of the oil reservoir, wick winder, soldering.

 

[EPS]

Is there any markings on the glass.
It's probably a newer version made to look old .
Check the glass see if there is anything on it

 

[GOG]

I'll email him, but he's young and easily distracted by shiny things so I may or may not get more info.

 

[WAYNO]

My first thought was reproduction. That's still my feeling.

The originals had a nameplate, riveted on.




On the photo you provided, the rivets are not functional at all, but just for looks.

 

[MountainBear]

Ask @Legs, he likes the old lanterns.

 

[Legs]

While I do collect and restore old Coleman fuel lanterns and other GPA's (Gas Pressure Appliances) I know little about wick type lanterns, much less industrial or maritime type lanterns.
I will say this... there are folks from countries like Pakistan and India who are masters at reproducing copper and brass collectibles. It does take a trained eye, but sometimes the obvious will stand out, such as fake rivets, latches that are cosmetic, and burner assemblies that are flimsy. Lets face it, early lanterns were subjected to tough elements and built to be so. Few had cosmetic embellishments or nonfunctional features.
Below on the right is a Canadian made Coleman 247 lantern made under contract for the Canadian Pacific Railway in the 1950s. Fairly hard to find, and if in private collections may be considered contraband. Next to it is a 1964 Canadian 639 CPR model that was also made available for sale to the public. These are run on kerosene.
Second picture is a Wichita made Coleman Air-O-Lantern, gas fueled, from the 20's, with mica globe.

 

[GOG]

He thanked us for our time and effort. I guess he's moved on to other things, so no more clues for the detectives.
But I agree, it looks fake.

 

[MountainBear]

While I do collect and restore old Coleman fuel lanterns and other GPA's (Gas Pressure Appliances) I know little about wick type lanterns, much less industrial or maritime type lanterns.
I will say this... there are folks from countries like Pakistan and India who are masters at reproducing copper and brass collectibles. It does take a trained eye, but sometimes the obvious will stand out, such as fake rivets, latches that are cosmetic, and burner assemblies that are flimsy. Lets face it, early lanterns were subjected to tough elements and built to be so. Few had cosmetic embellishments or nonfunctional features.
Below on the right is a Canadian made Coleman 247 lantern made under contract for the Canadian Pacific Railway in the 1950s. Fairly hard to find, and if in private collections may be considered contraband. Next to it is a 1964 Canadian 639 CPR model that was also made available for sale to the public. These are run on kerosene.
Second picture is a Wichita made Coleman Air-O-Lantern, gas fueled, from the 20's, with mica globe.

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Awesome response, thank you!

 

[Flymph]

My first thought was reproduction. That's still my feeling.

The originals had a nameplate, riveted on.
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On the photo you provided, the rivets are not functional at all, but just for looks.
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I was just going off the patina, or lack there of... tho your observation seems more sound.
Cool find any way ya look at it!